America: The Trump Era

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Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 pm

Also, Sanders gets crushed in any national election.
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Aye. It was the biggest myth going that he'd have destroyed Dump. The idea that "true" republicans would have voted for him is just nonsense - he was a socialist. An actual socialist - not the boogeyman kind. Clinton leaned WAY closer to rational conservatism.

Ah well, at least the shills got paid. #economy
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finneganm wrote:
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Hey, gorkie and co, who stood strong in their steadfast belief, albeit wrong, that the Russians had dared meddle in your 2018 American election?

Literally the opening line of the Mueller report:

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.
You know, you are right. That is what it says. But the report fails to back this up. At all.

Prove me wrong. Can you quote things that back this up?!! Amateurish Facebook posts stole your election, maybe ?

I guess it makes sense for you and Co, as 2+ year long Russiagater's, to try and use anything in an attempt to contradict the conclusion of the Mueller Report any way possible. Ya don't want to look stupid, afterall. :lol:

I should have used the term you all used for the last 2 years...collusion.

Here's a few titbits you failed to mention when playing word Semantics, which kinda flips your Russiagate position on its head:

Direct quotes from the Report....

“The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation”

“The evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference.”

No Americans were charged or even accused of being controlled by or working at the behest of the Russian government. None of the key White House aides at the center of the controversy who testified for hours and hours – including Donald Trump, Jr. or Jared Kushner, who you all knew were guilty as F– were charged with any crimes of any kind, not even perjury, obstruction of justice or lying to Congress.

“the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”


After the 2016 US presidential election, the Kremlin “appeared not to have preexisting contacts…with senior officials around the President-Elect.” Even more, “Putin spoke of the difficulty faced by the Russian government in getting in touch with the incoming Trump Administration…. Putin indicated that he did not know with whom formally to speak and generally did not know the people around the President-Elect.”

Are you getting a sense for how definitive the Report’s rejection is of the key elements of the alleged conspiracy theory is yet, finne?

That leaves us with the use of social media...

“The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation”

Pokemon Go?!! http://fortune.com/2018/12/17/pokemon-g ... n-hacking/

Sex toys to sow discord in the US?!! https://qz.com/1498265/instagram-was-a- ... peratives/

Army of Jesus?!!

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Educate me. What am I missing that you still vehemently believe Russia stole your election?

I mean, look at gorkies last post above this??!! Need I say more?



So yeah, GTFO here with that. Russiagate is finished bro. No evidence man, sorry, even if gorkie and yourself are bizarrely doubling down on it being true!! :roll: :roll:

Nah, your new holy land is called Obstruction of Justice. Try that one next, see if anything can stick...although that seems to be fading too.


Wonder if Pompeo's meddling in the upcoming UK election against Corbyn will be in a sweeping and systematic fashion...rhetorically, of course, because, well, how could you answer that without feeling like you needed to crawl under a rock, so awkward is it??
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In Soviet Russia narrative stick to you!
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:49 pm

You made it under the rock, I see.

Much safer there.

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ErocAfellar wrote:
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I always chuckle when people think it’s a surprise or a scandal that the Democratic National Committee preferred a member of the Democratic Party member to be their choice for the Democratic nomination. Not to mention that she was a life long democratic political insider, married to a former democrat potus.

I liked parts of Sanders platform, but no one should be surprised that a private political organization chose to promote one of their own, for better or worse.
For sure. But I think for Hillary, the actual "primary" took place long before the Iowa caucus. Her pretty much being the only "democrat" running in 2016 was the result of what I imagine to be a lot of preemptive political maneuvering to make sure she was the only person running. Which is why Bernie didn't gaf and ran anyway.
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Nobody really ran hard against Obama. Edit: except Clinton (duh)

Sanders gets zero respect from me simply because he didn't run as a socialist + campaign directly against Dump as well as HC. Instead, he tried to piggyback on the DNC, poisoned the Clinton well with essentially alt-right rhetoric against her, and ended up helping to sink the ship for generations to come. He's a galactic class loser in my book.
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finneganm wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:17 pm
In Soviet Russia narrative stick to you!
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fredo wrote:
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Nobody really ran hard against Obama.

Sanders gets zero respect from me simply because he didn't run as a socialist + campaign directly against Dump as well as HC. Instead, he tried to piggyback on the DNC, poisoned the Clinton well with essentially alt-right rhetoric against her, and ended up helping to sink the ship for generations to come. He's a galactic class loser in my book.
Just some perspective....

If the Democrat Party was a European political party, they would be classed as rightwing, with the Repubs. seen as extreme rightwing.


Bernie was/still is a Dem Sheepdog.

He is also a faux socialist.

Everything else you wrote is complete BS.

Galactic loser huh?!!

Priceless.

As for you saying earlier HRC was not flawed...?? :shock:

She and Trump were the lowest ratings EVER for the two candidates standing, in US election history.

Sounds like the MOST flawed by any metric, but you're wearing your rose coloured glasses, I see...

And using polls to gauge success? Makes sense...smart move!




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Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:25 am

I guess this isn't surprising coming from someone who's famous for looking into the sun during an eclipse and believing that windmills cause cancer.

Trump says he’d consider accepting information from foreign governments on his opponents

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ErocAfellar wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:58 pm
I always chuckle when people think it’s a surprise or a scandal that the Democratic National Committee preferred a member of the Democratic Party member to be their choice for the Democratic nomination. Not to mention that she was a life long democratic political insider, married to a former democrat potus.

I liked parts of Sanders platform, but no one should be surprised that a private political organization chose to promote one of their own, for better or worse.
This. And as flawed and terrible as Hillary was (as a person, not as a savvy and qualified political mind/operator), and including how much I dislike her, I still voted for her and think she would have been a real president (not pushing ideas I really support, but at least holding the line against the worst impulses of Repubes.) Instead because people can't make adult decisions, we have a human dung beetle as president.

edit: and also "this" and "this" to what Fredo and Finnegan said. I was a huge Bernie supporter, but he didn't do himself any favors. It wasn't the DNC that lost the election.
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fredo wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:45 am
Nobody really ran hard against Obama. Edit: except Clinton (duh)

Sanders gets zero respect from me simply because he didn't run as a socialist + campaign directly against Dump as well as HC. Instead, he tried to piggyback on the DNC, poisoned the Clinton well with essentially alt-right rhetoric against her, and ended up helping to sink the ship for generations to come. He's a galactic class loser in my book.
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