It just doesn't sound helpful at all to have his take on the collapse presented without a critical element.optimusGRRR wrote:Why would you assume that? He's an economist... an academic. Not a politician.maozilla wrote:Certainly seems like it would be an interesting read, though I also assume he'd show a complete lack of self-awareness/criticism.danebp wrote:Interesting read so far...
What book(s) are you reading???
just a foil for me today, thanks
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It's a biography. Dafuq?fredo wrote:It just doesn't sound helpful at all to have his take on the collapse presented without a critical element.optimusGRRR wrote:Why would you assume that? He's an economist... an academic. Not a politician.maozilla wrote:Certainly seems like it would be an interesting read, though I also assume he'd show a complete lack of self-awareness/criticism.danebp wrote:Interesting read so far...
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Although its surprising to see on the internet, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.fredo wrote:Not exactly.optimusGRRR wrote:It's a biography. Dafuq?fredo wrote:
It just doesn't sound helpful at all to have his take on the collapse presented without a critical element.
I've recommended this book before and will do so again, one last time.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Sovereign-Ind ... 0684832720
Please do not think you know what this book is about because you skimmed the blurb. It has nothing to do with the sovereign citizens movement. One day you may be very grateful for having read it. This is not a fun book or Nostradamus crystal-balling. Bring your thinking cap. This book charts the course of human civilization over the next century as convincingly as anything I've read of this sort. It is repetitive at times, infuriatingly wonky, and slow to draw conclusions. But when the conclusions are finally formulated, they are breathtaking.
Essentially the authors argued in 1999, when the book was published, that human societies were on the verge of a paradigm shift away from the long reign of the sovereign state. Through a combination of social forces powered by technological change and economic turmoil (primarily triggered by excessive debt [or simply the perception thereof, thanks to fredo for that insight]), sovereign states in the coming decades will become increasingly obsolete, soon falling into "disrepair" and concluding in the eventual collapse of state authority around the globe. Not through the actions of any individual or group, but simply as a matter of course.
The collapse of the USSR. Constant stress on the ties that bind the Euro Zone. Greece. Afghanistan. Iraq. Yemen. Syria. Venezuela. Argentina's fiscal crisis. Rapidly rising factionalism in the USA. Accelerating technological change hand-in-hand with skyrocketing national debt, around the globe.
Read this book.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Sovereign-Ind ... 0684832720
Please do not think you know what this book is about because you skimmed the blurb. It has nothing to do with the sovereign citizens movement. One day you may be very grateful for having read it. This is not a fun book or Nostradamus crystal-balling. Bring your thinking cap. This book charts the course of human civilization over the next century as convincingly as anything I've read of this sort. It is repetitive at times, infuriatingly wonky, and slow to draw conclusions. But when the conclusions are finally formulated, they are breathtaking.
Essentially the authors argued in 1999, when the book was published, that human societies were on the verge of a paradigm shift away from the long reign of the sovereign state. Through a combination of social forces powered by technological change and economic turmoil (primarily triggered by excessive debt [or simply the perception thereof, thanks to fredo for that insight]), sovereign states in the coming decades will become increasingly obsolete, soon falling into "disrepair" and concluding in the eventual collapse of state authority around the globe. Not through the actions of any individual or group, but simply as a matter of course.
The collapse of the USSR. Constant stress on the ties that bind the Euro Zone. Greece. Afghanistan. Iraq. Yemen. Syria. Venezuela. Argentina's fiscal crisis. Rapidly rising factionalism in the USA. Accelerating technological change hand-in-hand with skyrocketing national debt, around the globe.
Read this book.
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There is no arbitrary anything on earth as we now know it short of a Sharknado situation that puts those two countries in the same fiscal universe.1000steps wrote:USA is doing great. But if creditors decide some arbitrary point gets passed and...Greece.
Anyway I read up on the book and it won't make the cut for the same reasons The Long Emergency didn't.
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I thought it was very good.haven wrote:How was this?HappaHaoli wrote:Just finished these...
I never realized people died smuggling centifuges
out of Iran or North Korea to help develop targeted attacks for those
specific models. Sadly we were too conserative in the
tempo of the attacks so their sacrifice doesn't feel justified.
x6 
x2"I had this dream where I relished the fray, and the screaming filled my head all day."