deestar wrote:I'm in buddy.
Me too. Will help in anyway I can.
Good point mate. But let's send them a deluge of mail anyway. At the very least, it will be cathartic.Fattyramone wrote:Hi Dave , im with you 100% on this and ive thought exactly the same ....however , and this is no way in defending what they are doing.
I have a customer who comes in the pub on a regular basis that works in the clearing dept for American Airways and he explained to me that practically everything that comes into the country has a varying VAT % and that the "book" thats lists all the variant prices is as thick as a pint glass is high ....they KNOW that the majority of the time the correct VAT rate isnt being applied.
And thats what we will be fighting against.
Yes.Fattyramone wrote:Or better still send 2 copies of the letter , one to the powers that be and one to our MPs ....3 actually ....send them to some newspapers?....get the press involved in this rip off.
Davesuchanoo wrote:Just had a $1000+ tube arrive, custom labelled and tube marked with the tariff.....stung for 20%. Hit and miss.suchanoo wrote:Having the codes on the tube helps on occasion, but apparently the application of the correct tax code is arbitrary.mushetphoto wrote:Plus I received a tube today with the tariff code on the tube and the declaration, but still got stung for 20% - poor show.
We need to take some action on this. The tariff code is internationally recognised, it is not right that the UK border control can apply or ignore it at will. Especially when it takes them 2 - 3 months to refund any 'mistakes'. What is more, it takes quite some investigation to know that this tax sub-clause and code even exists. How many people in the UK are stiffed on import VAT and don't even realise, accepting it as correct and legal? It's a proper money earner for the government. Even what they pay back sits in their coffers earning it's keep, until they hand it back.
We should draft a letter to Border control, basically telling them to READ THE BLOODY CUSTOMS FORM and everyone who follows this thread (UK or international), who can be bothered to participate, print it, sign it and send it off to the same
address at the same time.
If you fancy giving it a go, post here, and if there's enough interest we'll come up with something. I know some people have given it a go individually, but en-masse it may amplify the message. All we're asking them to do is read the customs form which the sender has taken the time to fill out, and then apply the law correctly.
Got to be worth a punt, for the cost of a stamp.
Make sure that in the description section of the customs form you write:soam24 wrote:Lately when sending prints to the UK the buyer has been getting hammered on fees upon pickup.
Without scrolling through the thread, what should we put on the invoice to help out people in the UK w fees?
I like it Dave and it is far more articulate than my letter that I sent a couple of months ago.suchanoo wrote:OK, here's the first draft, any comments welcomed and appreciated. Please hold fire on sending this letter just yet, let's get ourselves organised and in agreement first...
To whom it may concern
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am a UK based private collector of hand made, limited edition works of art, and regularly have such works imported from outside of the EU.
The effective VAT rate for such imported goods is 5%. I refer you to HMRC Notice 702 (August 2012), section 11 ‘Definition of articles which are eligible for importation at a reduced valuation giving an effective VAT rate of 5 per cent’ and sub section 11.1 ‘Works of art’.
When purchasing any item eligible for this reduced effective VAT rate, I ensure that the seller declares on the customs form that it is a hand made, limited edition work of art, referencing the internationally recognised tariff code 9702 00 00, as per the above HMRC notice.
On occasion, this tariff is taken into account during customs charging, however, more often than not a standard 20% VAT rate is applied. This can be reclaimed, however the process of receiving a refund can take months.
Including a clear description of the goods along with the tariff code on the customs form, as well as writing the tariff code in large, bold letters across the parcel, has not proved effective in consistently ensuring the correct VAT rate is applied at the UK border.
As a UK tax payer, I expect all governmental departments to be operated as efficiently as possible. Raising a valid, retrospective claim for incorrectly processed and charged VAT costs myself and the HMRC valuable time and money.
I kindly request of the UK Border Control that customs form declarations for imported goods are taken fully into account and that the information is used in conjunction with the HMRC’s own tariff codes to ensure the correct VAT rate is charged at the point of entry into the UK.
I look forward to your earliest response, addressing the issue raised herein.