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regularjohn
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dirkstainly
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dirkstainly
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:07 am
The rule of thumb at EB is that we try to consolidate editions of prints with the exact same title and exact same artwork under the same listing. The year the artwork was created was 2007. The Orange may have been created as an edition at a later date, but the original artwork/print was done in 2007 and all editions of that artwork go with the same listing (Red, Blue, Orange).
The edition you asked to be added has the exact same name as an existing listing. It has the exact same artwork. The size and technique might be different (screen print instead of giclee), but the individual edition has places for those and they ARE described differently in the new edition or can be updated to have the correct data. By your definition, the Red and Blue should be separate listings as well since they have different sizes. That would be very inaccurate for how we try to keep editions together.
You'll see that there are OGs (e.g. paintings or other mixed media originals) which also have prints made from them. Most are giclees, which get listed as "Giclee" editions under the original work.
Sometimes a screen print is made with several variants of the same artwork (different colors, different paper) and those are listed under the original artwork as well. Sometimes they add goddamn teacups and throw pillows as editions (I wish I was kidding about that).
One minor difference is that when art prints are made from gig posters, those generally have a different title (see Justin Hampton's catalog for lots of examples) and they get their own listing.
Can you find counter-examples? I can probably find a bunch related to a series of prints and sets and individual listings and uncuts and all that...we do the best we can.
No system is perfect but that's why it should be combined based on our "rules of thumb."
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Bread8
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:35 am
dirkstainly wrote:Sometimes they add goddamn teacups and throw pillows as editions (I wish I was kidding about that).
Kozik's "Evil Tea Time" is pretty badass.
Great words won't cover ugly actions; good frames won't save bad paintings...
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plasticmoz
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jamel-d
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:24 pm
Gremlins 11 Taylor - Variant
Last sale of $480 should not count. It was signed by the actor Billy Galligan.
THE HORKEY CLUB 2013,14,15,16,17,18,19
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Drukqs
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:22 pm
dirkstainly wrote:The rule of thumb at EB is that we try to consolidate editions of prints with the exact same title and exact same artwork under the same listing. The year the artwork was created was 2007. The Orange may have been created as an edition at a later date, but the original artwork/print was done in 2007 and all editions of that artwork go with the same listing (Red, Blue, Orange).
The edition you asked to be added has the exact same name as an existing listing. It has the exact same artwork. The size and technique might be different (screen print instead of giclee), but the individual edition has places for those and they ARE described differently in the new edition or can be updated to have the correct data. By your definition, the Red and Blue should be separate listings as well since they have different sizes. That would be very inaccurate for how we try to keep editions together.
You'll see that there are OGs (e.g. paintings or other mixed media originals) which also have prints made from them. Most are giclees, which get listed as "Giclee" editions under the original work.
Sometimes a screen print is made with several variants of the same artwork (different colors, different paper) and those are listed under the original artwork as well. Sometimes they add goddamn teacups and throw pillows as editions (I wish I was kidding about that).
One minor difference is that when art prints are made from gig posters, those generally have a different title (see Justin Hampton's catalog for lots of examples) and they get their own listing.
Can you find counter-examples? I can probably find a bunch related to a series of prints and sets and individual listings and uncuts and all that...we do the best we can.
No system is perfect but that's why it should be combined based on our "rules of thumb."
Makes sense; I appreciate the explanation. In that case, the orange version should not be attributed to Santa's Ghetto and the manufacturer should be Yo! Depot.
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dirkstainly
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halftonegraphics
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:47 pm
kansasbbq wrote:applehead wrote:Can a mod please change the edition size of the regular from 170 to 425? (where the 170 came from?)
and the variant edition edition size is 225.
And the Original Price of the Reg is/was $50.
I broke something today, and I realized I should break something once a week.. - Warhol
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woodyland
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:33 pm
380578911004 This is the AP variant & is listed @ the non-AP variant

They're a Band Beyond Description, like Jehovah's Favorite Choir

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pking1601
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