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Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:13 pm

american psycho is one of my favorite movies. hard candy is the closest i have ever been to vomiting during a movie.
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:24 pm

andruw000 wrote:american psycho is one of my favorite movies. hard candy is the closest i have ever been to vomiting during a movie.
+ 1on american psycho.

hard candy is one of my favorite movies as well. yes, the first time watch is hard, but once you get the whole concpet it is brilliant.
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:45 pm

andruw000 wrote:american psycho is one of my favorite movies. hard candy is the closest i have ever been to vomiting during a movie.
You seen The Audition? That's a heavy duty flick

Looks like Banksy has a movie coming out

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainmen ... 516172.stm
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:51 pm

shootsright77 wrote:
andruw000 wrote:american psycho is one of my favorite movies. hard candy is the closest i have ever been to vomiting during a movie.
You seen The Audition? That's a heavy duty flick

Looks like Banksy has a movie coming out

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainmen ... 516172.stm
he did. actually the audition is pretty light entertainment when compared a couple fo other flicks named in this thread.

2 words: subconscious cruelty.
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:20 pm

Those that have een Wolf Creek - look up Ivan Milat on Wiki (No, not the painter, the Backpaker murderer)
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:28 pm

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Cremaster 3 (Matthew Barney) Really intense art film. DEF. worth the watch
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:33 pm

schoolgirl in cement is based off the junko furuta murder... it's pretty drymounting disturbing to read about. my uncle, don lasseter, is a true crime writer so i'm always interested in stuff like that.

yes, audition is pretty slow and the violence is tame compared to a lot of the stuff mentioned thus far.
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:50 pm

andruw000 wrote:schoolgirl in cement is based off the junko furuta murder... it's pretty drymounting disturbing to read about. my uncle, don lasseter, is a true crime writer so i'm always interested in stuff like that.

yes, audition is pretty slow and the violence is tame compared to a lot of the stuff mentioned thus far.
true dat. there is also a manga about it. both the manga and the movie actually only exist for the purpose of proving a point. there is no need to actually check them out though as there is nothing to gain by doing so.

the thing about audition is that i don't really see any deeper meaning to it. it was a quite alright watch, but if i watch that kind of movies i want to take something philosophical out it. when i wtached oldboy, funny games ... etc for example those movies kept me thinking for weeks. as for audition i was sitting there, thinking about what they wanted to tell me and after an hour came to the conclusion: "well, most likely nothing", which equals that they used the violence for the sheer purpose of violence. icchi on the other hand blew me away. visiot q in contrary was so overblown with symbolism that they lost me at a certain point.
andruw000 wrote:didn't charlie sheen call the cops about a snuff film after watching one of this guinea pig films?
this incident very well happened and i think you are right that is was sheen, even though i am not 100% sure about the latter. the band "skinny puppy" thought so as well and used it as background projection for their stage shows.

while we are at it, please head over to youtube and check out skinny puppy's musicvideo to their song "worlock". you will not believe your eyes. that's not a fan made video, it was done by the band themselves, but for obvious copyright and grossness reasons will never face an official release. oh, and if you haven't yet, the Nine Inch Nails homevideo "broken" movie is a must see. though everything else might be more graphic, the video to "pinion" is the most disturbing. i will never forget that picture.
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:56 pm

bartleby - a nice quote from the movie Quote "i prefer not to"

Me and You and Everyone We Know - a nice quote " I want to poop back and forth" http://gprime.net/video.php/iwanttopoopbackandforth
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:02 pm

thanks y'all. my list of movies to soon check out recently got a lot longer because of you. i appreciate it. :notworthy:
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:06 pm

worlock was wild. no surprise to see the list of directors at the end of the video. i love peter jackson's older stuff, it's so fun.
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:21 pm

andruw000 wrote:worlock was wild. no surprise to see the list of directors at the end of the video. i love peter jackson's older stuff, it's so fun.
i sense the beginning of a long friendship. :D

yeah man, worlock is mental. agreed on peter jackson's early stuff.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:17 am

just watched senseless. netflix watch instantly makes viewing a few of the titles mentioned much easier. as far as senseless goes, interesting plot, poor writing and weak conclusion. it did, however, keep me interested for the majority of its length.

on another note, a pretty slick little horror film i watched recently: iIs (US title Them). similar plot to the strangers, though i much preferred this french film. check it out.
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andruw000 wrote:just watched senseless. netflix watch instantly makes viewing a few of the titles mentioned much easier. as far as senseless goes, interesting plot, poor writing and weak conclusion. it did, however, keep me interested for the majority of its length.

on another note, a pretty slick little horror film i watched recently: iIs (US title Them). similar plot to the strangers, though i much preferred this french film. check it out.
thank god i am not the only one.

my review of the movie (shameless copypasta from my IMDB review):

8 out of 14 people found the following review useful:
senseless - pointless, 24 December 2008
1/10
Author: Iratasan

*** This review may contain spoilers ***

i found the plot synopsis for this movie pretty interesting and for sure the basic ideas could have been easily transformed into an excellent movie, so i found it very promising to check out this flick. usually i try to stay neutral and don't get my hopes too high upfront and would for sure have been satisfied with an at least mediocre thrill ride.

it all starts with our main protagonist captured and been held captivated by a group of people that claim that he is a guest and is about to change. to archive that they want to take away what means the most to him. as soon as he gets tortured for the first time and they take his sense of taste away the viewer instantly knows what that is: his senses. since there aren't too many of those we it becomes clear very early in the movie what will happen within the next 90 minutes. as a movie buff it always worries me when they reveal most of the next events so early in a movie. there are very few directors to either manage to dig themselves outta that hole use that to their advance. Hitchcock would be one of those rare examples that even used this as a stylistic element. unfortunately we don't see such brilliance here.

we further get explained that his sufferings are being broad casted. by that they can only mean an internet stream as TV would be way too off. people can contribute money, write letters and vote his sufferings to stop. the main goal according to the kidnappers is to get together money for their operations.

our protagonist also gets some time with a seemingly innocent female that claims that she doesn't support the ways of the group she's in. this might have been believable in 1960 when this genre wasn't as overused as it uses to be, but nowadays this is simply not plausible.

to justify that exactly this guy has been picked for the operation we see some flashbacks and some explanations by the protagonist himself into the camera, showing that he has been a ruthless idiot without morals in his life. not, necessarily evil, but just not a good guy. i have no idea why that should be a justification for keeping him captivated, torture him for weeks and then cripple him for life, but alright.

all of this counted together makes what we see completely random. the main character is not sympathetic and not evil. the evildoers are simply villains without a reasonable justification. after 45 minutes it just gets mighty boring as it is completely random and pointless. as the graphic violence shown has no real meaning but to shock and disgust the viewer it gets extremely boring. i don't enjoy watching someone getting tortured for 90 minutes. there is no thrill in that, it's just stupid.

nevertheless i was hoping for a clever conclusion AND twist at the end to make up for my lost time. disappointingly this doesn't happen and the movie simply ends.

don't get me wrong, i am a horror movie fan, but this is not a horror movie. there is no thrill in it. i enjoy getting scared and i have seen quite a few Japanese extreme horror movies, but without justification there is no thrill. if this would have been an action movie it would have been transfered to this: i guy drives around in a car and just kicks the heck out of random people and shoots some other, without no reason or background story behind it.

also this genre of movie is not new. if it were there would at least been the justification of going beyond everything else that has been done in other movies just to prove a point. i know for a fact that this has been done much more extreme to prove those points. if you take a look at the guinea pig series then even in the genre of wannabe-snuff-movies this example is just a very lame attempt to even reach those limits.

overall this has been a very disappointing experience.
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