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Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:11 pm

downbytheriver wrote:Nope - 'wont be contacting anyone, never crossed my tiny little pea-sized mind.

I mean, drymount me man, the thing was cheap and the shipping was like 2 bucks. I learned when I was 'bout seven yrs. old in the isle of the candy store...you get what you pay for.

I don't care for whiners...whether they're justified or not - especially when they've no reason to piss and moan.

While there is PLENTY of reason here to bellyache...I look at it like "Buyer Beware".

My purpose for describing the size, condition of the tube was really just so those of you wondering how the drymount to get it out of the tube might do so without jacking the print up even worse.

There are no genuine creases - amazingly enough, nothing the hot table won't fix up in a few minutes flat.

While it certainly is a shame that a cool edition of 50 like this could fall into such amateurish hands; It is what it is.

If you guys file a class action lawsuit, have the attorneys send my 1cent settlement in the form of a contribution to expressobeans.
:imwifstupid: :wink:

I got my copy just like everyone else, but the creases if you will, aren't really genuine like downbytheriver says and I can only see them on the back of the print. They do not show on the front. I'm pretty sure that my copy will flatten nicely when I give it to my framer and his hot table also. That's not to say that others copies aren't completely destroyed, but mine appears to be in acceptable condition and I'm pretty sure that you won't see anything wrong with it after it's framed.

I hope others have the same luck.
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:15 pm

LOL! Class Action Suit. I love your level-headedness, river.

For me, it doesn't really matter whether it's a $35 bargain or a $200+ classic. A limited edition art purchase should be respected by the seller, or should I say the buyer should be respected by the seller. It's good to hear that your creases are "soft" and you think you'll be able to flatten the poster so they are removed or at least don't stand out. I'm hoping my poster is in that category when it arrives, in which case I may just accept it and move on.
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:31 pm

I've seen the postal service jack up some heavy duty tubes...

and these things aint that....

I'm thinking if 47 of these things fold like cheap tents in a March Monsoon....

suddenly, I've got one of three of a run of 50. :groucho:
"lance wrote:drymount, man, this is better than Disneyland! chef wrote: I used to think if I died in an evil place, then my soul wouldn't be able to make it to Heaven. But now? drymount! I mean, I don't care where it goes, as long as it ain't here.
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:34 pm

... and desch has one of the three. So, are you guys gonna collude and flip 'em at a cartel price to make a bundle? :P
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:46 pm

Rick_a_c wrote:... and desch has one of the three. So, are you guys gonna collude and flip 'em at a cartel price to make a bundle? :P
You betcha! :pint: :wink: :wink:
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:46 pm

Rick_a_c wrote:... and desch has one of the three. So, are you guys gonna collude and flip 'em at a cartel price to make a bundle? :P
Nope...'gonna mat mine up and smile at it every time I walk by and catch it out of the corner of my eye! :wink:

...though you did get me to scratch my head there for a second. :shock: Believe it, when I do sell I'll be p/m'n his azz to discuss how we can pull this off and still avoid racketeering charges. :D

I couldn't fathom two of these things wadded up into one of those tiny fuggin tooobes - best of luck to those of you in unraveling that class "A" cluster.
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:41 am

So, for desch and river (let's call you two the Columbian Art Lords),
Did you open your tubes like poppin' a tube of Pillsbury biscuits open? It looks like the best way is to gently tear the tube along the seam far enough that you can finesse the poster out. I'm usually pretty good at dealing with things like this, but any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:00 am

Well believe it or not, I carefully was able to grab a corner without bending the print (probably pure luck) and slowly pull it and work it's way out of the tube. Took a good couple of minutes to do it. Very much a pain in the a$$. It was also miraculous that that didn't cause any edge damage by being pulled against the tube. I was sure it would.

I again looked closely at the print and the Roll bends are pretty noticeable on the back, but don't look very noticeable in the front, even in bright light. They definitely aren't hard creases. They look like they'll flatten out OK, but I'm not completely out of the woods yet as they may be worse than they look and won't flatten. We'll see. I'll report back after I get the print to my framer.

Last thought's, this print is pretty awesome. Too bad they were shipped this way and that so many got badly damaged.
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:29 am

I peeled the tube off in a spiral all the way down to about 4 inches...taking no chances.

Its not like I'm gonna' EVER use a tube like that again for any reason so no use in saving ANY of it....
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:17 am

Hey river... you can still use the tube, just the way it is... ever hear of duct tape? :lol:

P.S. Thanks guys for the info!
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:35 pm

OK; mine just arrived. The tube is actually 1.5" diameter, which is like 49 percent bigger than 1" :lol:

There was a really small piece of scotch tape over part of one of the endcaps, but nothing on the other endcap. This didn't really matter, because the fit of the endcaps on the tube was extremely tight... I had to pry the endcap with a screwdriver to get it off. The poster inside was neatly rolled... no doubt by experts at rolling ganga... and was sitting in there as snug as a rolled up sheet of flypaper. Side note: There's no friggin' way 2 posters could have been rolled and inserted in this tube... even by the most proficient blunt rolling rasta man.

Anyway, I first smoothed out the slight indentation that an endcap always seems to make at the very end of the actual cardboard tube where I intended to pull the poster out, and then I started tapping the tube against the floor until the poster was really close to that end of the tube. Then I held the tube firmly in one hand near the open end of the tube, with the opening pointed downward, and hit my wrist really hard against the edge of a sturdy table with the open end of the tube pointing downward. Sure enough the poster started to emerge from the tube. When it had come out about 2", I was able to easily pull it out of the tube without it resisting.

As river and desch have noted, the handling creases are 'soft', and they only seem at first look to be visible on the back of the poster. The best news is that none of the folds/bends "break the image".

Net: No jihad from me. I wish the poster would have been packaged like a collector desires/expects, but I'm fairly certain that it will look mint when it flattens.

P.S. My poster is a cream edition, marked "s/p xx/50"... no "wood" designation.
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:01 pm

Rick_a_c wrote:OK; mine just arrived. The tube is actually 1.5" diameter, which is like 49 percent bigger than 1" :lol:

There was a really small piece of scotch tape over part of one of the endcaps, but nothing on the other endcap. This didn't really matter, because the fit of the endcaps on the tube was extremely tight... I had to pry the endcap with a screwdriver to get it off. The poster inside was neatly rolled... no doubt by experts at rolling ganga... and was sitting in there as snug as a rolled up sheet of flypaper. Side note: There's no friggin' way 2 posters could have been rolled and inserted in this tube... even by the most proficient blunt rolling rasta man.

Anyway, I first smoothed out the slight indentation that an endcap always seems to make at the very end of the actual cardboard tube where I intended to pull the poster out, and then I started tapping the tube against the floor until the poster was really close to that end of the tube. Then I held the tube firmly in one hand near the open end of the tube, with the opening pointed downward, and hit my wrist really hard against the edge of a sturdy table with the open end of the tube pointing downward. Sure enough the poster started to emerge from the tube. When it had come out about 2", I was able to easily pull it out of the tube without it resisting.

As river and desch have noted, the handling creases are 'soft', and they only seem at first look to be visible on the back of the poster. The best news is that none of the folds/bends "break the image".

Net: No jihad from me. I wish the poster would have been packaged like a collector desires/expects, but I'm fairly certain that it will look mint when it flattens.

P.S. My poster is a cream edition, marked "s/p xx/50"... no "wood" designation.
Awesome, you can now officially become a member of the cartel. However, you will be the kingpin as you got a cream edition and not a wood :lol:
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:10 pm

Hoping for a cream and a wood for I ordered 1 at the beginning and 1 at the end

+ a miracle to remove them :D
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:12 pm

I GOT A FOIL VARIANT!!!!

(just kidding, mine haven't come yet)
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:31 pm

Hey River-

I got some great deals for ya...

No buyer's remorse though..
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