Acedia 12 Geddes Release Discussion 11/20/12

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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:04 pm

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Jem and i have been talking about a lottery approach. Some way where people register their interest and are then selected at random. Is this preferable?
PLEASE NO lottery. :D

Even though I haven't been able to get a print via your drop since APV, i'd still rather take my chances via the way it is now. Having said that, I had to go to the market to obtain Cluster and Acedia. Lotteries suck, and people find ways to cheat.

How about I just send you my credit card number and you just charge it when anything drops. :lol:

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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:05 pm

No lottery please. Just pick a day for the sale, then announce a two or three hour window when the Buy button will pop up. May the best man/woman win.

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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:07 pm

flippers are customers, too. we bleed just like you bleed.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:12 pm

Vytis33 wrote:No lottery please. Just pick a day for the sale, then announce a two or three hour window when the Buy button will pop up. May the best man/woman win.

Happy New Year!
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:13 pm

soph wrote:So a lottery is not the pancea we thought it was - there you go.

a timed release looks like it's popular but we can't do that for every release

are there any other ways to do limited editions so it doesn't end up in a flippers paradise?
I don't think anyone has come up with a 100% solution for that.

Seeing about 10% of any run of any popular release show up on ebay almost directly after it's release is pretty much an inevitable given (right now) in this hobby.

The only thing that would stop flippers entirely is to do open editions, but I'd hazard to say that no one here would like to see that happen. I wouldn't.

The closet things that definitely deter flipping are higher print runs (though upping to 375 on Acedia was still low enough for flipping, apparently) and timed releases. Again less fun for collectors, but it is difficult to know if something will flip , if it seems the (immediate) demand has been met. That is why Warmer Air can still be found for a reasonable price.

And is also my biggest argument for a timed release. Closest thing to an 'everybody wins' scenario. In the end everyone still gets a print that is numbered and limited. Just takes a little time before it becomes collectible.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:20 pm

I don't think there's anyway to stop flippers other than through large large edition sizes; they obtain prints the same way we do. In terms of having smooth drops, I really enjoyed how Faile handled their last sale for Heartbreak / The Saved and I think that would really be an option worth looking at.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:23 pm

I am in the minority here but I like the idea of a lottery. But that's because I never seem to be able to win on the drop.

I lack the proper skills apparently.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:36 pm

gorkie wrote:I am in the minority here but I like the idea of a lottery. But that's because I never seem to be able to win on the drop.

I lack the proper skills apparently.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:37 pm

canuck wrote:Best option is to just keep on selling how you are. As artists get bigger and more sought after the flippers come out to play. Just the way it is. The blacklist and keeping tabs is a good way to keep it somewhat down.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:43 pm

No lotto!

There will be flippers no matter what. Short timed release or random drop is preferred here.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:46 pm

How about a two-five minute times release. Or even a one minute window.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:47 pm

ErocAfellar wrote:No lotto!

There will be flippers no matter what. Short timed release or random drop is preferred here.
This. I'm all for giving a specific day and a 2 hour window in said day (ala OBEY) and just going from there. Specifying the exact time is kind of a proverbial dagger to most big big releases.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:50 pm

sidewaysscott wrote:How about a two-five minute times release. Or even a one minute window.
I like this.
Was thinking the same.

It may keep the edition somewhat small yet give those who are interested enough to grab one.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:55 pm

soph wrote:So a lottery is not the pancea we thought it was - there you go.

a timed release looks like it's popular but we can't do that for every release

are there any other ways to do limited editions so it doesn't end up in a flippers paradise?
Not really.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:58 pm

sidewaysscott wrote:How about a two to five minute timed release. Or even a one minute window.
Announced or not, lol?
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