Screen or Giclee Print?

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:03 pm

OtomoChaser wrote:
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wizzack wrote:When some kid in China is turning out thousands of Pacific Rim screen prints will it still be an art in itself?
Yes, people in China can still be artists. :-?
No racism was intended.
He means a piracy artprint sweatshop in china. Not that Chinese can't be artists.

After all,they had a roaring trade in Mao posters....

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Is that where they send all the time release prints ? :D

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:02 pm

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earlgreytoast wrote:I think the question goes deeper than simply giclee v. screen print. Not all screen prints are created equal and neither are all giclees. Differences in paper, ink, screens, printers, the art itself...all are factors in what the final product looks and feels like. Rafa Jenn is the first artist that comes to mind who releases almost all giclees but they are on some awesome textured paper and look and feel great. Then there are some screen prints that are on sucky paper with poor registration that use cheap, muddled, water-based inks. And there is definitely some artistic ability involved in getting a good giclee-some of those Keyes pieces have to be meticulously pieced together to arrive at those results. It's all about the final product IMO.
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Part that kills me the most is that ppl will right off a piece that they really enjoy and connect to just because its printed giclee over screen printing.

Im pretty sure the piece you just connected to as a $325 35 color screenprint you wouldn't buy either.
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:16 pm

As an amateur screen printer, definitely lean towards those over giclees. Something about the process of pulling the screen, developing the piece based on a limited # of colors, the risk of drymounting up with each screen pulled.... I feel way more connected to the final piece, knowing the labor that went into each one. Of course I'm not naive, I realize some of the art I'm buying was pulled by a machine (I know there's a thread here about artists that still do their own printing, too lazy to look for it).
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:18 pm

dougr wrote:one is a print, and the other is a print-out
haha I like that.


Screen prints look more like paint so tends to look better. But screenprints are very limited in use and sometimes you need to go the giclee route..

that being said :notworthy: geddes
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:23 pm

attackonthebass wrote:I agree that Screen printing in itself is an art form.

I guess what I'm getting at is why can't Josh Keyes have his art screen printed? To me Giclee's should be fairly inexpensive ( unless it's the paper thats so expensive ? )

But I see prints quite often that are going for a premium $130 retail and up and they're Giclee's, and I'm just curious if maybe it's more expensive to create prints in this fashion?
Giclees are not cheap - ink, paper and printers are all expensive, they are not desktop inkjet printers. and you can't replicate super fine detail in a screen print than you can a digital print.

Screen printing is part of the creation process, pushing a print button on a computer is not.
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:29 pm

Geddes are giclee. #justsayin
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:32 pm

mrkyuss wrote:Geddes are giclee. #justsayin
Yea I know, dont worry lol

My point being some people, like Geddes, have to go the giclee route. And they can still be great prints.

:shock: <- staring you down.

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:50 pm

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:57 pm

though screen printing can be much more time consuming and require more of a skillset, printing an inkjet can be quite close when compared. adjusting color profiles. getting the blacks to print just enough so that they dont oversaturate. getting that red just as pure as the original. etc.

unfortunately, i think the realm of inkjet gets bombs by some artists and galleries that just donts take proper time to produce a solid product. laminate with their initial runs. that amy sol print was laughable. bottleneck and the noir series. dont think i have seen soo much variance in a greyscale print series. leslie ann o'dell and her undersaturated prints. its not something you just jump into.

same can be said with screening though. hell, even mondo and big companies have their problems. look at the recent Things to Come print. appears to have three major registration/screen issues that passed for editioning (they may be intentional, but they seem so awkward that i would disagree).

it takes proper time and skills.

when it comes down to it though, i will always take a screen over an inkjet anyday though.

to answer the OPs question, there are far too many variables. short runs. long runs. number of colors. setup time. setup materials. material costs. etc. looking at a long run, i would say screen would be cheaper as for price per piece.

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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:12 am

i want to buy something from the op
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Who merged the threads? It had me confused.
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mrkyuss wrote:Who merged the threads? It had me confused.
i did.
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jkw3000 wrote:Whatever gets you the best end product of art.
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Is this the place to discuss FS threads?
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