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“That picture ruined the album”
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RR: I think I’m getting around to the fact that Phish finally made a great album with Billy Breathes and then, it was forgotten by the touring machine. Story of the Ghost followed and, again, it contained strong material that was shunned due to its live offspring and an audience that clamored for new directions. Those were two key tactial errorsalbum abandonment and audience enpowermentthat hindered long term growth. Couldn’t Phish sit tight for once and say, “We just made a great album,” and let history breathe? Does that make sense?
TM: Yes. (laughs) Trey’s frustration with almost every studio album in different ways, like the need to sabotage the album in a way, I’m not sure if this is his analysis a lot later looking back or if it was immediate but, like, that picture of Mike on Billy Breathes, he thought just ruined it, ruined the whole album.
RR: It did.
TM: It did. You pick it up and say, “What the f*** is that?” It doesn’t belong there. He felt the same way with the voting process for songs on Story of the Ghost, how he kind of had a clear vision of what should go on and a great songI’m really hard-pressed to remember it, nowwas scrapped in favor of “Fikus.” He figures that, what the hell, that was a huge mistake and he was just sort of overruled or outvoted.
I felt that sort of frustration. He had various things that he felt were wrong with Farmhouse, too. I feel like he always felt like there was an album in him, an album in Phish that never, never was fully realized. Possibly, Billy Breathes was the one that got the closest with [Steve] Lilywhite and the band getting together perfectly, getting along perfectly. Everything was perfect.
In many ways you’re right, there was a musical peak right around the time; they were getting huge, they were at Bearsville [Studio] with this amazing producer and everyone was smiling the whole time. You’re right. If I’m looking back, it should have been the big album and they shouldn’t have put that picture on the front. Maybe, without that picture, is it the perfect album? No, I still don’t think so. I think Trey knows and knew that there’s always something better in him and I always think he’s still striving for that.
TM: Yes. (laughs) Trey’s frustration with almost every studio album in different ways, like the need to sabotage the album in a way, I’m not sure if this is his analysis a lot later looking back or if it was immediate but, like, that picture of Mike on Billy Breathes, he thought just ruined it, ruined the whole album.
RR: It did.
TM: It did. You pick it up and say, “What the f*** is that?” It doesn’t belong there. He felt the same way with the voting process for songs on Story of the Ghost, how he kind of had a clear vision of what should go on and a great songI’m really hard-pressed to remember it, nowwas scrapped in favor of “Fikus.” He figures that, what the hell, that was a huge mistake and he was just sort of overruled or outvoted.
I felt that sort of frustration. He had various things that he felt were wrong with Farmhouse, too. I feel like he always felt like there was an album in him, an album in Phish that never, never was fully realized. Possibly, Billy Breathes was the one that got the closest with [Steve] Lilywhite and the band getting together perfectly, getting along perfectly. Everything was perfect.
In many ways you’re right, there was a musical peak right around the time; they were getting huge, they were at Bearsville [Studio] with this amazing producer and everyone was smiling the whole time. You’re right. If I’m looking back, it should have been the big album and they shouldn’t have put that picture on the front. Maybe, without that picture, is it the perfect album? No, I still don’t think so. I think Trey knows and knew that there’s always something better in him and I always think he’s still striving for that.
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Do you guys even Phish?
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Too much studio talk in here
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TM is Tom marshal. RR is randy ray I believe.
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T.K.C.
Take it to the phish thread ya wookies.
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