Nakatomi / Tim Doyle

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TimothyPDoyle wrote:
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I'm curious why you don't just do custom size order on your tubes. You have the volume to do so from yazoo, no?
wont get into it here but its not that easy trust me. We had other ideas that we tried but Yazoo doesn't do it. Surcharge happening on that tube by itself either way.

We figured it out but sort of sucks
We were able to get a custom 22" tube size out of ULine that fit our bill- only slightly more expensive than the size we were ordering (Double-walled Telescoping 3x25 tubes w/ metal endcaps). That allows us to ship our 18x24's without any upcharge on the postage side- and the 24x36 prints ship in our 4x30" tubes with only the $4 upcharge. (totally avoiding the dreaded $15 charge).

My question tho- how the heck is anyone able to service Australia and NZ now? It costs over $100 to ship a tube down under on USPS?
I don't know what price your stuff is selling for, but for my art purchases from UK/EU that are over $500, I'm commonly spending ~$150 for overnight FedEx and it's more than worth it to me. I have a cheaper original that is stuck in USPS custom hell in Chicago and a bunch of travel coming up...so who knows when it will get released and get delivered/stolen from my front door.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:58 am

TimothyPDoyle wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:23 pm
the 24x36 prints ship in our 4x30" tubes with only the $4 upcharge. (totally avoiding the dreaded $15 charge).
Where did ya get 4x30 (actual length not usable length) without custom size order or cutting em down?
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:37 am

TimothyPDoyle wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:23 pm
acidburn wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:54 pm
Codeblue wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:49 pm
I'm curious why you don't just do custom size order on your tubes. You have the volume to do so from yazoo, no?
wont get into it here but its not that easy trust me. We had other ideas that we tried but Yazoo doesn't do it. Surcharge happening on that tube by itself either way.

We figured it out but sort of sucks
We were able to get a custom 22" tube size out of ULine that fit our bill- only slightly more expensive than the size we were ordering (Double-walled Telescoping 3x25 tubes w/ metal endcaps). That allows us to ship our 18x24's without any upcharge on the postage side- and the 24x36 prints ship in our 4x30" tubes with only the $4 upcharge. (totally avoiding the dreaded $15 charge).

My question tho- how the heck is anyone able to service Australia and NZ now? It costs over $100 to ship a tube down under on USPS?
We use dhl.

But I’d be careful with that 4 x 30. We actually left usps due to it. Customers got hit with the $15 surcharge. They have to pay it on delivery.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:23 am

Doyle and Uline. There's a match made in heaven.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:59 am

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But I’d be careful with that 4 x 30. We actually left usps due to it. Customers got hit with the $15 surcharge. They have to pay it on delivery.
Dats cuz theyre bigger than 30”. That’s the usable length not actual.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:11 am

Also it's really surprising to hear that USPS is charging the customers being delivered to instead of the person that bought the postage. I thought we lived in modern times and that's certainly the way they've been doing it for the last 5-6 years.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:21 am

it's likely those buyers will get something like this in their mailbox

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Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:24 am

Right which is insane for a company like bng or nakatomi. They don't buy stamps and put them on the tube, they purchase commercial postage which comes with a billing agreement. Filling out that piece of paper and putting the onus on the receiver is unreal. Just bill the sender, USPS has never had a problem doing this to me
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:26 am

Codeblue wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:59 am
acidburn wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:37 am
But I’d be careful with that 4 x 30. We actually left usps due to it. Customers got hit with the $15 surcharge. They have to pay it on delivery.
Dats cuz theyre bigger than 30”. That’s the usable length not actual.
ah he makes his own? got it.
Also it's really surprising to hear that USPS is charging the customers being delivered to instead of the person that bought the postage. I thought we lived in modern times and that's certainly the way they've been doing it for the last 5-6 years.
Its actually both. We've been hit on the report for extra charges (incorrect weight or size) but the week they added the surcharge, it hit a few customers and they emailed us. I'm not sure if its like the slip above they got but it was def the surcharge for the tube. I wonder if it depends on what station it hits? I seriously have no clue.
Doyle and Uline. There's a match made in heaven.
Tim no other alternatives for custom? Thought you hated Uline.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:45 am

oh boy...

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Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:53 am

Ha, but but but the "wellness of society" is more important than Tim's money stacks! luls. Tim you're so full of fudge it's laughable.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:14 am

I had no clue there was a whole section dedicated to letters from Liz on their website.

https://www.uline.com/images/en-US/Corp ... Policy.pdf
"The U.S. has two big problems:

• Publicly-held companies are too concerned about
their stock share price, and they are frozen when it
comes time to reinvest in new equipment and update
their plants. My opinion.

• Baby boomers have sold too many companies
to hedge funds that can really suck the life out of
them and pile on debt.

"America First" was President Trump's policy. He made
his moves to lower taxes, increase tariffs, renegotiate
new trade deals, support immigration laws, stop
endless wars and stop America from paying the
lion's share for everything, especially NATO. I am a
believer in these policies, but they take time.

Then Trump lost.

Now we have the Democrats coming in and, surely,
they will have a different policy than "America First."
The problem is, how are we going to compete?
We need a clearly defined policy and time to
make it work."
Wonder what FantasticNinjas take on all of this is.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:40 am

Lolol pokingbeehive.gif
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:54 pm

Kramerica wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:23 am
Doyle and Uline. There's a match made in heaven.
Weider is that Shepard Fairey uses Uline.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:39 pm

acidburn wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:26 am

Tim no other alternatives for custom? Thought you hated Uline.
Oh, I absolutely despise Uline. They're horrible. We're still looking for alternatives, but they were by far the fastest and cheapest when it came to customs that we could find.
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