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darkninja1985
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:41 am

To all the collectors and printers out there. Does anyone know much about Production Sample prints?

What are they? Are they valuable? Is it better to have this than the actual run?

I thought I would start a discussion about this as I couldn't find anything on the topic that was helpful. So I thought it would be good for collectors to show their prints on here if they did have a production sample.

Also I had just won a Ken Taylor First Blood print on eBay, so I just wanted to find out if I ended up paying over the odds! EEEKKKK
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:22 pm

sounds like you are describing a printers proof
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:24 am

SPAC04 wrote:sounds like you are describing a printers proof
I had bought a print and on the back of it, it had a Mondo stamp saying “Mondo Production Sample not intended for sale”.

Would you class this as a printers proof? What exactly is a printers proof?

Sorry about the basic questions.
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:03 pm

I'm only guessing but what you have is prob a piece that was printed before the run as an example of the finished product hence "not intended for sale" if its a Martin Ansin Gihbli...please sell it to me.
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:17 pm

eBay 112822595308

I wouldn't buy it.
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Rookie mistake
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:20 pm

What would be the issue with the item?
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:23 pm

darkninja1985 wrote:What would be the issue with the item?
It has some issues
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Woo5lscott wrote:
darkninja1985 wrote:What would be the issue with the item?
It has some issues
Would you say the issues are the mark, crease etc?
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darkninja1985 wrote:
Woo5lscott wrote:
darkninja1985 wrote:What would be the issue with the item?
It has some issues
Would you say the issues are the mark, crease etc?
All of the above
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Woo5lscott wrote:
darkninja1985 wrote:
Woo5lscott wrote:
darkninja1985 wrote:What would be the issue with the item?
It has some issues
Would you say the issues are the mark, crease etc?
All of the above
Fair enough, but would it not matter anyway if you could not see this in the frame or that it is a production sample so there may inevitably be defects?
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there is such limited information that i have seen on these production samples, is the consensus that they are less valuable than the numbered ones? When i emailed mondo about my Grandmaster production sample, i was told they only made 15 of them prior to the numbered run. Basically just trying to figure out if these are considered lesser thans or not, as i am looking to sell mine.
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shawnzy5000 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:20 am
there is such limited information that i have seen on these production samples, is the consensus that they are less valuable than the numbered ones? When i emailed mondo about my Grandmaster production sample, i was told they only made 15 of them prior to the numbered run. Basically just trying to figure out if these are considered lesser thans or not, as i am looking to sell mine.
I ended up keeping my print and had it framed as there were no visible defects. I guess if you want to sell it, I think you could get a fair price depends how badly the buyers wants it regardless of it being a production print.
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am

Essentially, it's not looked at as part of the actual run. It has a stamp on the back, as opposed to a handwritten number on the front. Some may look at this as "less than", as it's not part of the "edition", nor is it an AP. Sort of the same way people look at Printer's Proofs (prints marked PP). They're runoffs or extras.

You should be buying it for the art on the front, not the numbering on the bottom.
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:44 am

I was a little surprised that Grey Matter included some of these in their mystery tubes this year, that is print copies with a stamp on the back.
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