Giclee or Silkscreen what do you think?

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Giclee or Silkscreen

Poll ended at Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:42 pm

Giclee
1
1%
Silkscreen
53
54%
Doesn't matter I love the image
37
37%
Doesn't matter Im flipping it
8
8%
 
Total votes: 99
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FOODRAP wrote:To me theres nothing like the smell of fresh inks on a print from like Chuck Sperry, Obey, Faile, or MBW. I feel like more work goes into the silkscreen process and its more about the artist testing and mixing colors and shades with the printers in a more personal touch opposed to an image being reproduced by a digital printing machine.

It might just be me being all weirded out but I thought I'd ask to see what others think on here or if it even matters.

Lets talk about art.
My thoughts exactly. I voted silkscreen, although I can also appreciate the giclee technique and what it brings to the table.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:46 am

I just feel like if Im a spend money on a print whether its a new artist or someone Im already into, it needs to be more than a machine accepting a file and spitting it out.

But that's just me. You all can do whatever you like with yours.
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FOODRAP wrote:I just feel like if Im a spend money on a print whether its a new artist or someone Im already into, it needs to be more than a machine accepting a file and spitting it out.

But that's just me. You all can do whatever you like with yours.
But why does the printing mechanism matter?

What if you were into the art? If you saw a piece that you liked and it was a giclee. You wouldn't buy it?
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Because if you really felt that strongly about the mechanism a screen print is logistically the same thing.

I get it that its handmade.

But alot of artists that make screenprints make their work on a computer.

So if you wanted to be a purist about it you wouldn't buy prints from artists who use computers to make their work.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:20 am

Nah not really. Cause I do buy plenty of shepards work. But he's a graphic artist to me.

I was thinking more that giclees are like photographs in a way.

As far as artists using computers, it's part of the creative process I guess.

Glad this could be an informative discussion where members help each other out.

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Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:56 pm

Silkscreen I view as an original work while I view gicleess generally as reproductions . Reproduction lose the impact brush work , scale had in the original but can make the original look " tighter " when cranked down to a frame able scale when dealing with an illustrated style . When you look at a 4 to 6 foot photorealist painting you see the distortions of photography . When you look at a reproduction of the same painting at a smaller scale it's appears crisper . To me
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:09 pm

ricv64 wrote:Silkscreen I view as an original work while I view gicleess generally as reproductions .
Amen.
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:33 pm

Silkscreens all day but never CMYK. If you have a wide range of colors in your art I would prefer that you just use more screens myself.
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I ain't drymountin' with no giglees.
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ricv64 wrote:Silkscreen I view as an original work while I view gicleess generally as reproductions . Reproduction lose the impact brush work , scale had in the original but can make the original look " tighter " when cranked down to a frame able scale when dealing with an illustrated style . When you look at a 4 to 6 foot photorealist painting you see the distortions of photography . When you look at a reproduction of the same painting at a smaller scale it's appears crisper . To me
Original work that has been made into multiple copies. From anywhere from 50-100s of times?
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:55 pm

35mmpaul wrote:Original work that has been made into multiple copies. From anywhere from 50-100s of times?
Original work that is independently created 50-100 times. Or more!

edit: though I guess the burning of the screens etc only happens once. Any case, it's a creative process. Making new (usually) instead of reproducing precisely something else.
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:41 pm

fredo wrote: edit: though I guess the burning of the screens etc only happens once. Any case, it's a creative process. Making new (usually) instead of reproducing precisely something else.
Depending on how many colors then they would need that amount of screens. So even then its multiple screens for one image.

You guys want to act like screen prints are these holier than thou things while giclees are these second rate things because your perspective on it is someone "hits ⌘P" and thats it.

The silk screen process involves computers at many many different parts of the process. A computer and printer is a tool and all if not most artists will use it at some point in the screen printing process. Wether its scanning, separating, or anything else. Its a tool and its all about how you use it.

So a screen print is not an "original work". Its a reproduction just like giclees.

Full circle.
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:50 pm

Nah.
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