Agree 100% with a lot of what everyone is saying. I think for future releases you'll see a change in the pricing and the structure of it all. I'm certainly trying to help guide him, there were reasons behind the pricing structure but as far as the size variants go, I think he was just trying to accommodate various budgets with the editions. I think he understands it now too but, at the end of the day, the ultimate decision is his, I'm here to help promote, facilitate, and get his art into your hands.blingaling wrote:Vacvvm level exposure would certainly make a huge difference. But just from his IG he's already got a horde of fans, thousands of likes per post...wottagunn wrote: Maybe a little. It’s weird, if Olivier was part of Vacuum for instance (and he easily could be given his talent) then this release would be long gone.
I don’t understand it. His attention to detail and subject matter is a perfect fit and appeals to me personally, so much, but I would imagine it would appeal to many others as well. He’s not flippable (at the moment) so maybe that’s why his work is not selling out.
The Dragon ink for instance looks like its been done by a drymounting computer. It’s perfect.
True Detective was his first likeness project and he nailed it. Some other artist do that fudge all the time and never get it right.
Maybe its got something to do with him being French? Just doesn’t have a huge presence in the US. But there’s enough people on EB that would know about him, enough to at least sell out the editions of 10 and 30.
Personally im happy with it, because it allows me to collect his work with ease, but for DZO’s sake I hope his work sells better in the future. He’s very kind, professional and extremely talented and deserves everything for his art. He told me a few months ago that he had to regretfully sell two originals to help him progress with some other work, and that’s a bit sad.
The work itself is astounding. The care that goes into the HPM editions is evident and well worth the price. It would make me really sad to think the flip factor is whats keeping his sales down. Even the MAE stuff is still available
Did you pass on the standard for that reason? No judgement, just trying to understand.slunkey wrote:I think its worth talking about. His work is really amazing and his attention to detail is phenomenal! There are so many images on his Behance site that I would love to purchase as prints, really amazing library of work.
I would say its the prices, but for the standard $70 edition, the price is on point. I would totally pay that. But I think when I'm presented with something special, like a hand embellished version, I would want that version or none at all. And maybe a lot of people feel that way. But those prices for the hand embellished version are a bit high for me right now. At least, that is how it wound up for me.
I've been thinking about it a lot. It's so hard to gauge why people don't buy something. Giclee printing turns a lot of people off. Not sure that the detail could be captured correctly with screenprinting, but letterpress seems like a good match. Printing technique counts for a lot in this game, it may be a factor. It might take some prodding to get him to expand this way though as he's said multiple times that he's most comfortable working with giclee.
There are so many variations in this particular edition (as there were with Pan) it may be a turn off for some. The minor difference between A2 and A3 sizes makes me wonder if it is necessary to split the run. The editioning looks confusing at first glance, 30 of these, 10 of those, how many of these total? Which size? Is it multiple runs of the same print or 1 run with multiple variant? We know the answers, but that doesn't mean everyone does.
Not numbering the standard makes little sense to me, the effort to do so is small and it adds a personal touch that means a lot to many collectors.
And the unfortunate hype/flip factor. 'nuff said there.
Olivier deserves larger success. His art is top notch, and he's humble and friendly.
I know I, as well as other folks, are trying to get him to do a letterpress or a screen print. I can guarantee that he will be doing a screen print release for me at some point for a licensed property. I just don't think he has a firm grip on a way to color it digitally with the detail in his work just yet. I mean if Horkey can do it so can DZO, it's just a learning curve. For now, the giclees make his life a little easier and help speed up the process.
