*BUYER BEWARE* - SELLER SCAM - gizmo1977

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kazzazz
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:04 am

I would like to warn other forum users of my experience with another expresso beans forum member gizmo1977. I approached them about buying a piece of work from there collection. They agreed a price including shipping, money was paid through paypal and they acknowledged they had received the payment. This was the first week of April. I waited patiently for the 'seller' to provide accurate tracking numbers of the shipped item, with them always making excuses (mainly believable ones) about why the item had not been sent.

Last contact I had from gizmo1977 was last Thursday stating the item had been sent and would provide the tracking details when they 'get into the office' the next morning. I waited before contacting them on Friday to ask politely for the details.....no response. That was the last time I have heard or seen any contact from them.

Since then I have now opened a dispute on paypal to try to resolve the problem.....the 'seller' has not responded. Yesterday I took the steps to escalate the dispute to a claim and have also notified my bank and VISA. Still the 'seller' makes no contact or has replied to the dispute / claim through Facebook.

I am a very fair person but now do not believe gizmo1977 ever had the print or had any intention of sending it to me. Would like to warn others about this experience with this particular 'seller'
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:30 am

Sorry to hear mate, but sounds like you'll get your money back so not all is lost.

For future reference, do a search of the members name. Also, a seller with no feedback, sales, donation pin and especially cheap prices (as in this case) should generally be avoided.

Just spend some time on the forums if you can and you will learn who the regular posters are and the ones that won't ruin their reputation over a few dollars.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:45 am

Sorry to hear. Looks like this seller was called out before.

http://forum.expressobeans.com/viewtopi ... 2&t=123705
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Yommers
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:06 am

Bummer dude. I hope you get your money back.
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kazzazz
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:11 am

Thanks for the replies. Very frustrating knowing I'm not the first.

I have used EB for buying prints over the years and never had any issues.....ive never used the forum for any real time so wasn't aware that I could just search the usernames. Now I know i will be making sure of this.

I just hope that Paypal actually take as strong action as they can one my credit card company chargeback the money. Hopefully my money will be returned but scumbags like this need to be punished by the law rather than getting away with it.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:57 am

Stuff like this happens occasionally… happened to me when I first joined. Paypal are usually pretty good at sorting these things out so I don't think you need to worry too much about it. But it is really irritating and it's doubly so because people can get away with doing this several times on here without any comeback. If scammers tough it out they can just stay here forever and trap the unwary it seems. Hope it all works out for you.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:06 am

kazzazz wrote:I just hope that Paypal actually take as strong action
You'll be fine. In my years of buying and selling, with over 1500 transactions, if the seller doesn't respond to a dispute, nor provides tracking, PayPal always will return your money. Even if the seller doesn't have enough funds in his PayPal account, it will just result in him being in the negatives, and you'll still get your money. He'll then have to pay PayPal his balance, or go into collections.

Overseas transactions might be a bit different though.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:52 am

Greetings from France,

I had a deal with "gizmo1977" in december and got the same result as you with a print, I've paid through Paypal and never received the print and no communication. This guy should be banned from EB

Sincerely

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Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:13 pm

Let this be a lesson to anyone who tries to make a deal with a movie character handle.... its almost like trusting someone with two first names: ya just don't
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:07 pm

thanks for the call-out, not fun but necessary
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:20 pm

This happens too often it seems.

Do your homework in the search threads w/ that user name.

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Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:23 pm

100 EB Points? Nice. More than a lot of people, even ones who post here regularly.

Also, financial contributor = good person.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:23 pm

No fudge. Wonder what he added.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:24 pm

I really appreciate this post. Thanks for taking the time. I have been having some back and forth with this guy Gizmo1977 for months about a possible buy on something.

Lots of red flags so have been proceeding extremely cautiously, but now I am done for sure with him.

He's probably the worst communicator I have ever dealt with on this forum and now it all makes sense.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:26 pm

... and gorkie's even dealt with me once, so that' really saying something. ;)
1000steps wrote:Gift payments are like unprotected sex - always a bad idea with strangers... If you are gonna do it, do it with someone you trust absolutely.
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