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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:03 pm

The easy way to get a chargeback…
1). Call up your credit card company and speak to a representative that can handle chargebacks.
2). Tell them you purchased goods on March from OddCityEntertainment (check your CC statement and give them the dates/totals).
3). Tell them despite the goods being marked shipped immediately, they were never really shipped. Also, the estimated delivery date was marked for May.
4). Tell them that OddCity has been scamming people, and you know for a fact that numerous people have called their credit card companies about OCE.
5). Tell them you have spoken with the seller, and he has not shipped your print or provided any proof.

That should be it. Get your money back, and let the credit card companies deal with Roman. And keep in mind everyone, just because you got your money back, doesn't mean you can't enjoy this thread.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:06 pm

tenaciousjack wrote: And keep in mind everyone, just because you got your money back, doesn't mean you can't enjoy this thread.
This thread truly is a spectator sport...I should make another poster...
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:07 pm

tenaciousjack wrote:The easy way to get a chargeback…
1). Call up your credit card company and speak to a representative that can handle chargebacks.
2). Tell them you purchased goods on March from OddCityEntertainment (check your CC statement and give them the dates/totals).
3). Tell them despite the goods being marked shipped immediately, they were never really shipped. Also, the estimated delivery date was marked for May.
4). Tell them that OddCity has been scamming people, and you know for a fact that numerous people have called their credit card companies about OCE.
5). Tell them you have spoken with the seller, and he has not shipped your print or provided any proof.

That should be it. Get your money back, and let the credit card companies deal with Roman. And keep in mind everyone, just because you got your money back, doesn't mean you can't enjoy this thread.

exactly, what I did! I have all the supporting docs I need. I have my correspondence with Roman, as well. Plus, the forums will be an excellent element of support, too.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:07 pm

triporfreak wrote:
downforcemedia wrote:
Buckhammer wrote:Mail fraud. Wow, Roman you are drymounted. That aint civil, that be criminal.
But that's a federal crime and you would have to convince a US Attorney to prosecute the case. I'm afraid they have bigger fish to fry. ;)
perhaps, but I know for a fact that eBay has contacted local authorities in instances of both mail & wire fraud....
Consider the statutory definition of Mail Fraud:

"In the United States, mail and wire fraud is any fraudulent scheme to intentionally deprive another of property or honest services via mail or wire communication."

Note that term "intentionally." Do you believe that Roman purposefully took all of these orders with the intention of defrauding everyone and stealing their money? Even if you assert that, it would be all but impossible to prove.

It is more likely that Roman fully intended from the start to fill every order but then had various setbacks or otherwise got in over his head. He should have known better. But that is negligence - not an intentional act. Thus, these delays would almost certainly not fall under the federal law covering Mail Fraud.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:09 pm

All this talk about lawyers. Clearly, you mean consiglieres.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:09 pm

matowest wrote:All this talk about lawyers. Clearly, you mean consiglieres.
Ha Ha! I wish! Then I could retire. ;)
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:15 pm

Things sure have escalated in here today.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:20 pm

glenn1 wrote:Things sure have escalated in here today.
My purpose was to deescalate all of the lawsuit nonsense. I hope it didn't backfire on me as usual. :)

I'm done. The only questions left for me is, who do I send the bill too? ;)
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:22 pm

downforcemedia wrote:
glenn1 wrote:Things sure have escalated in here today.
My purpose was to deescalate all of the lawsuit nonsense. I hope it didn't backfire on me as usual. :)

I'm done. The only questions left for me is, who do I send the bill too? ;)
Roman. Just make sure it goes through the new post office, not the awful one that caused all this mess to begin with
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:23 pm

Firstly, thanks everyone for the entertainment. Also for reminding me that I still haven't received this, despite getting an email saying that they were held up in customs, blah blah blah. And called Amex for my $$ back. It's been 6 month, crazy :hanging:
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:24 pm

Lawyered. So most likely Roman is going to have to pay all the credit card companies back due to all the chargebacks?
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:25 pm

downforcemedia wrote:
glenn1 wrote:Things sure have escalated in here today.
My purpose was to deescalate all of the lawsuit nonsense. I hope it didn't backfire on me as usual. :)

I'm done. The only questions left for me is, who do I send the bill too? ;)
Roman.

He will pay you in a timely manner.

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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:25 pm

The Fall of Roman's Empire - An OddCity Timeline.
6/21/13 - Roman claims to get kicked out of a Mondo gallery show for being considered "competition".
6/21/13 - Roman tells Mondo and EB that "OddCity is here to stay!" OddCity is changing the game!
6/22/13 - EBers quick to blame Mondo, and side with Roman. EBers begging for Roman to make Roadhouse prints.
6/23/13 - Justin Ishmael posts on EB to refute Roman's claim, and posts his cell phone number so they can discuss.
3/3/15 - OCE previews Godfather 2
3/6/15 - OCE puts Godfather 2 on sale, collects over $60K for regs, variants, and woods
3/8/15 - OCE sends out e-mails that claim your order has been shipped (this is so he can collect on the money paid)
5/19/15 - Printing is finished, Roman says "Shipping soon"
6/29/15 - After a month of claiming issues with customs, Roman proclaims "they have FINALLY arrived"
7/19/15 - Sarah quits OCE, eventually tells EB a few days later
7/20/15 - Roman says Godfather 2 is shipping
7/21/15 - Roman says subs and regulars are shipping first, but your position is contingent on "where you fall in the pile"
7/25/15 - Jack Durieux posts on Facebook "Has anybody received their GF2 yet?"
7/25/15 - Roman begs anyone to post a picture of the tube they received. Target date is now "by the end of the week"
7/31/15 - Bottleneck offers to help OCE with shipping, Roman declines.
8/2/15 - Roman claims a bunch of tubes he shipped have gone missing from the USPS facility, and will get to the bottom of it.
8/3/15 - OCE thread hits 400 pages, lots of dancing GIFs.
8/3/15 - Customers that filed disputes with their banks start receiving their prints in the mail. Everyone else, nope.
8/4/15 - Roman offers jrsheppa a refund if he returns the print because Coppola, DeNiro, Andy Garcia, and wine bottles.
8/9/15 - Oddcity returns to EB and writes a bunch of unreadable nonsense and blames a "former employee" for everything.
8/9/15 - Oddcity claims to never getting an e-mail from Kramerica, showing a lack of understanding of real names vs. EB screen names.
8/9/15 - Oddcity tries to make nice, using upbeat emoji, and bolding the word "finally". It doesn't work… at… all.
8/11/15 - Oddcity posts pics of underwhelming Usual Suspects / True Romance prints sold A YEAR AGO. Deletes Facebooks messages.
8/12/15 - Oddcity writes an epic post on EB. I... can't... even.
8/12/15 - OddCity says drymount you, it is your fault they haven't shipped Godfather yet. Give them an extra 7 days, please.
8/18/15 - OddCity asks customers to remain patient for another 3 days. It's been 29+ days since Roman proclaimed "now shipping".
8/18/15 - OddCity is switching to shopify, which means more crappy prints and excuses are on the way.
8/20/15 - Roman proclaims OCE will be here past December, only different.
8/25/15 - Roman declares "all prints are shipped, you'll have them by the end of the week"
8/26/15 - Roman says that the local USPS has had problems scanning, still refuses to provide tracking numbers to those that ask.
8/26/15 - Roman says "Its costing me money each day that nobody has their prints"
8/27/15 - Roman says,"no more e-mails, we are busy packing woods with some prints." Dude's been "packing" for 6 weeks.
8/27/15 - vtswordfish posts an incredible Roman/Godfather mashup image. Seriously, its the best thing ever (page 460).
8/28/15 - Roman as an "attorney" working with the post office, he's given over $3K in refunds, it's all their fault. Blame them.
8/28/15 - Roman demands an apology from all those who have called him a liar.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:30 pm

Roman's post office be like...
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:36 pm

Does that make Roman Fredo?
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