2020 Elections - A New Hope

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Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:51 pm

^ He won’t answer.
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Tensions were somewhat high at the time though, and that war + the CIAs behavior...well, it weren’t good
Thank gawd, 45 years later the tensions are gone and the CIA is farting unicorns and not doing any of the fudge from “back in the days”.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:53 pm

...and it’s going to get a WHOLE lot more dirty.

America has had lots of Agents of Change in its history.
It also has a deep history of political assassination...
MLK, JFK, Bobby, Malcolm X

Sanders is an Agent of Change.
He must have a massive target on his forehead.

And he was right. The CIA have a long history of murdering democratically elected officials....as well as propping up ugly dictators that make Castro look like an Angel, lest we forget.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:59 pm

Interesting watch.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:06 pm

BlakeAronson wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:44 pm
gorkie wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:01 pm
Sanders is not a Democrat, yet he is asking Democrats to give him their nomination as President of the United States. How, exactly, has he earned that?
I think I've asked this a couple times to the Bernie haters now and still no answer from anyone.

Would you prefer he ran as an independent?

I don't think you would.
Keep asking your obviously stupid question.

I get a real kick out of reading it every time you ask it.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:07 pm

The Great Socialism Gap
Socialism doesn’t freak out Democratic voters the way it freaks out other Americans. That’s a problem.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... ction.html

It won’t surprise you to hear that Democrats are far more willing than independents to support a socialist candidate. But you might be surprised by how much bigger the partisan gap is for a socialist than for other kinds of candidates. In a Gallup poll taken last month, Democrats didn’t differ much from independents in their stated willingness to vote for a black, female, gay, or atheist presidential nominee. For a Muslim nominee, the gap was more then 30 net percentage points. For a socialist, it was more than 60 points. Three-quarters of Democrats were willing to vote for a socialist. Most independents—and, consequently, most of the Gallup respondents—weren’t.

Why are Americans more likely to refuse (or, at least, to tell pollsters that they refuse) to vote for a socialist than for a woman or a Muslim? Probably because socialism isn’t an innate characteristic or a matter of personal faith. It’s a doctrine about how government should intervene in the lives of other people. That makes it a legitimate reason to vote against a candidate and therefore—unlike race, sex, or religion—a legitimate factor when you’re considering whether to nominate a candidate other voters won’t support.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:14 pm

James Carville: "You're A Fool" If You Think Bernie Sanders Can Win By Expanding The Electorate

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... orate.html
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:16 pm

"....It’s a doctrine about how government should intervene in the lives of other people."

Do American govts not intervene in your life or the lives of others, gorkie?

I think you'll find they do...just not adequately or in the ways they should, relative to the rest of the Western world.


And to think that you are all so concerned about Russia brainwashing 63 million Americans to vote for Trump...

When down is up.

"Murka.

PS
Reason is part of a right wing think tank. Your'e a helluva lot more right leaning than you think, if you are happy to use them as your evidence against Sanders.

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES !! THE FREE HEALTHCARES A COMIN" !!

FFS Amerika. Seriously?
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:16 pm

BlakeAronson wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:44 pm
gorkie wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:01 pm
Sanders is not a Democrat, yet he is asking Democrats to give him their nomination as President of the United States. How, exactly, has he earned that?
I think I've asked this a couple times to the Bernie haters now and still no answer from anyone.

Would you prefer he ran as an independent?

I don't think you would.
I would.
Better Q : why hasn’t he?
just a foil for me today, thanks
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:17 pm

Damn dude, when did you find out that Bernie ran over your dog after banging your mom?
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:21 pm

Damn dude, when did you find out Bernie had sunshine and rainbows shooting out of his arse?
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:24 pm

It was on a poster! #fullcircle

Ps by rights Bernie and Dump should both run as independents, but they know where the action’s at.
just a foil for me today, thanks
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:29 pm

Fredo using the simpleton reason.


"If we were serious about winning this election, which is always my intention from day one, I thought we could and I hope that we will. I had to do it within the Democratic primary caucus process," he said.

"What I did not want to do is run as a third party candidate, take votes away from the Democratic candidate and help elect some right-wing Republican. I did not want responsibility for that. So what I said at the beginning of the campaign is that I was not going to run as an independent. And I say it now, that if I do not win this process I will not run as an independent."
Bernie Sanders.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:35 pm

We’ll see what’s what in a week.
just a foil for me today, thanks
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:36 pm

fredo wrote:
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I would.
Better Q : why hasn’t he?
It's a simple answer. He benefits because it's his only chance of winning in our two party system. You moderates benefit by not having him split the vote in our two party system. And Gorkie benefits by not blowing out every blood vessel in his eyes when the 2020 results end up ± 45% R / 27% D / 27% I.
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