2020 Elections - A New Hope

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Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:59 pm

Shut up dummy
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That's what she said
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Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:29 pm

Says the Bloomberg guy....
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Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:42 pm

Way to go Bernie!
That’s how you handle a murderous, poyzin-happy pile of actual donkey shite.

Officials tell Sanders Russia is trying to help his campaign. See his response.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... ot-vpx.cnn
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Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:52 pm

misterx wrote:
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Says the Bloomberg guy....
Absolutely.

And again... Shut up dummy.
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Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:37 am

Is Bernie Sanders the Democratic Party's Donald Trump?

Like Trump before him, Sanders is using establishment disunity to mount an insurgent campaign.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com ... ump/%3famp
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Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:38 pm

Too funny.

DW: Twitter suspends Bloomberg supporters for 'spam' ahead of Nevada caucus
Social media platform Twitter said on Friday it was suspending 70 accounts of supporters of billionaire Democrat presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg's for "spam-like" behavior.

The suspension came days after the Wall Street Journal revealed that Bloomberg had hired 500 people to regularly post messages on social media supporting him.
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Please watch.
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misterxxy wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:52 pm
I love Russia and their illustrious leader, the handsome, the verile Vlad Putin. He would never allow interference in any country's affairs or elections
Tell me misterxxy, have Putin or Russia ever done anything wrong??
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gorkie wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:42 pm
Way to go Bernie!
That’s how you handle a murderous, poyzin-happy pile of actual donkey shite.

Officials tell Sanders Russia is trying to help his campaign. See his response.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... ot-vpx.cnn
Oh my how the tide has turned.....

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Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:38 am

It’s the correct response, kind of.

The motivation for foreign help to the Sanders campaign is clearly not to reap the rewards of a Sanders presidency, but to watch as he gets decimated in fall, cementing a Trump re-election.

The math isn’t that hard.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:43 am

In your opinion, I know.

Still think bloomberg beats trump handily after that debate? Could bloomberg have done better by running against him on the republican ticket?
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:16 pm

Does Bloomberg beat Trump? Yes, by the largest margin of anyone else in the field.

Electoral math still matters, and Bloomberg wins with it. You have to appeal to the center. It’s not difficult.

But at least when we lose hilariously in the fall after a Sanders nomination, we’ll have lost with our ideals held high!
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:05 pm

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But at least when we lose hilariously in the fall after a Sanders nomination, we’ll have lost with our ideals held high!
You're saying moderates wont vote for Sanders, but what makes you think liberals will vote for Bloomberg? Or do you think Bloomberg will win without the liberal or youth vote?
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:33 pm

Pretty sure anyone who has ever won ...has done it without the youth vote. Its a vote that helps...but not typically a deciding factor as they vote so much less than other age groups.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:40 pm

Interesting case for partisanship beating policy and economic self-interest. Idea is there is no determinative swing vote, turnout is everything, and motivation is negative, not positive. Seems like it's worked for the GOP post-W, and maybe even in 04.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ory-108944
The classic view is that the pool of American voters is basically fixed: About 55 percent of eligible voters are likely to go to the polls, and the winner is determined by the 15 percent or so of “swing voters” who flit between the parties. So a general election campaign amounts to a long effort to pull those voters in to your side.

Bitecofer has a nickname for this view. She calls it, with disdain, the “Chuck Todd theory of American politics”: “The idea that there is this informed, engaged American population that is watching these political events and watching their elected leaders and assessing their behavior and making a judgment.”

“And it is just not true.”
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Bitecofer’s view of the electorate is driven, in part, by a new way to think about why Americans vote the way they do. She counts as an intellectual mentor Alan Abramowitz, a professor of political science at Emory University who popularized the concept of “negative partisanship,” the idea that voters are more motivated to defeat the other side than by any particular policy goals.
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