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Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:32 am
by finneganm
In sunny Australia, spending an inordinate time on a conspiracy theory involving a DC staffers death seems perfectly reasonable.

Meanwhile

In Soviet Russia, agenda pushes you!

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:59 am
by gorkie
Speaking of Australia...

'A monster not a journalist': Mueller report shows Assange lied about Russian hacking

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... 51frc.html

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:21 am
by partpat
If Dump orders the citizenship question today as expected going agains the Supreme Court decision and congress does nothing , it’ll be the day our democracy dies.

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:24 am
by gorkie
But can he??

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Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:32 am
by dero316
gorkie wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:31 pm
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Exactly, I'm sure he's just shaking his head at all this garbage. Even if he had old money or was rich before politics he doesn't strike me as the type of guy to get involved in this.
I am curious if he knew about Bill(everyone else did right?) and the others.
How was Epstein on all these boards? His resume seems out of place(even his total $ worth) compared to the other members.

Rockefeller Foundation - Board Member
Trilateral Commission - Board Member (along with Henry Kissinger & Larry Summers)
Trilateral North American Group - Member
The Council on Foreign Relations - Member
Institute of International Education -Trustee

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:09 pm
by Codeblue
partpat wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:21 am
it’ll be the day our democracy dies.
Naw dat won't happen until he gets re-elected in 2020.

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:09 pm
by mobius006
gorkie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:24 am
But can he??

goverment can do anything unless the checks in place stop it. thats the issue we're seeing. no one with the power to stop it, is.

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:03 pm
by gorkie
The President cannot overrule a Supreme Court decision.
I think he realized he was in real trouble on this issue.
He is now not issuing a statement stating that they are doing it anyway.

Trump to end fight for census citizenship question: Report

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ons-report

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:54 pm
by Danno1
mobius006 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:09 pm
gorkie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:24 am
But can he??

goverment can do anything unless the checks in place stop it. thats the issue we're seeing. no one with the power to stop it, is.
Read a interesting article on the hill about this yesterday. Author claimed an executive order from Trump to add the question into the census would lead to a bona fide constitutional crises. It would put the commerce dept right in the middle of either declining to follow an executive order which applies to them directly, an order from the CEO essentially of the fed govt, or knowingly disobeying an interpretation of the law from the supreme court. Good article, and claimed this issue could have led to a serious stink fest for the simple rule of law.

My guess is someone finally convinced trump that he was going to lose bigely on this one and look like even more of a fool then he already is in the end. Way to go Ivanka!

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:40 pm
by gorkie
Sometimes even mentally ill criminals know when they can't win.

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:38 pm
by fredo
dero316 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:32 am
gorkie wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:31 pm
Even if he had old money or was rich before politics he doesn't strike me as the type of guy to get involved in this.
I am curious if he knew about Bill(everyone else did right?) and the others.
He didn't have old money and he ran against HRC because he didn't like her and Bill.

Obama, raised by a single mother and his grandparents, worked his way through college. By 2004, he earned a salary of $60,287 from the Illinois State Senate and $32,144 as a law professor at the University of Chicago, according to Time. By 2005, the future president and his wife had “barely finished” paying off their student loans.

Yet, the Obamas donated more than $1 million while they were in the White House, Forbes reported, most of it to support charities that help children. In 2017, after leaving office, the couple donated $2 million to summer jobs programs in Chicago, among other significant contributions.

Where did their money come from? The Obama’s net worth was pegged at $20 million, from the time Obama became a U.S. senator in 2005 to the end of his presidency. That wealth came from the former president’s salary, book royalties and investments, according to Forbes.

dero316 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:32 am
How was Epstein on all these boards?
And there it is.


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Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:24 pm
by misterx
If Obama was a former Russian President, you'd be calling him an oligarch. Funny how you see things through different lenses to suit...

From still paying off his education in 2005, to a net worth now of $40 MILLION.

Makes sense.
gorkie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:59 am
Speaking of Australia...

'A monster not a journalist': Mueller report shows Assange lied about Russian hacking

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... 51frc.html
Must be an American thing, targeting the messenger and not the message.

Assange and Wikileaks have NEVER been caught in a lie.

Now Assange has been silenced, the US can run its mouth all it likes and naive people like you will believe unquestionably.

He did not interview Assange.
He did not interview Bill Binney.( former Tech director of the NSA and a worldwide expert, who, using the scientific method and not "assessments", concluded that the download speeds were impossible to achieve remotely via hack and had to have been uploaded to a local device like a USB stick etc.)

And the biggest scandal??

Not one US law enforcement agency forensically examined the DNC servers, yet the WHOLE BASIS of the Russiagate investigation rested on these servers.

Not odd to you? Clearly not.


One thing is for sure...Assange knows where the documents came from. As does former British diplomat Craig Murray.

Although WL has never revealed a source, given his predicament, Id presume Assange has done what needs to be done.

We know of his dead mans switch, so time will tell...

And no, he didn't smear faces all over the walls. Or kick the cat...



Bill and Friends, chilling in Costa Rica in 2017.
Mr. Nader is worth a google... he was one of Mueller's "star witnesses", but is a convicted pedophile.

What a web we weave...

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Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:36 pm
by gorkie
Is this nutjob still posting shite for real?

I mean really?

After every single thing he’s ever posted has been proven to be complete and total bullshite.

What an absolute friggin mess. I can only imagine the ridonkulous turdvomit he is barfing out of his mouth.

King of gaslighting.
King of dezinformatsiya.
King of false humanity.

The very definition of fake news.

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:14 am
by finneganm
If you write a few best selling books, and do a few paid speeches, you make money. For example look at literally every author who has sold millions of books, or anyone who gets paid in the 10s to 100s of thousands to give a speech.

Re: America: The Trump Era

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:43 am
by dero316
fredo wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:38 pm
dero316 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:32 am
gorkie wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:31 pm
Even if he had old money or was rich before politics he doesn't strike me as the type of guy to get involved in this.
I am curious if he knew about Bill(everyone else did right?) and the others.
He didn't have old money and he ran against HRC because he didn't like her and Bill.
Yes, my opinion was that if he would have been born rich or was a billionaire prior to politics he appears to have more values when it comes to promiscuity and commitment to his marriage.

Speaking of old money, did I correctly read that Dershowitz said he was introduced to Epstein by Lady Rothschild?


Is it possible to truly understand the functioning (or dysfunction) of US political system without figuring the role of systematic blackmail?

— Darren J Beattie (@DarrenJBeattie) July 9, 2019