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mistersmith wrote:As others have pointed out, this is the same sort of intellectually bankrupt crap that X pulls. .
Except that it isn't. Far as I could tell (and as far as he explicitly states) the blogger was raising reasonable questions based on actual, reported upon facts. This is very much unlike the .ru and iDetective fudge that Xpose posts, which has it's roots and half of it's trunk firmly set in conjecture and prejudice.
You are missing the point. There are certainly facts in the piece. However, the author uses the facts to support conclusions that may or may not be correct. Maybe I'm wrong but Gorkie seemed to be asking for someone to prove the conclusion as factually incorrect. The author's conclusion is an opinion and not a fact.
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jjttdw wrote: However, the author uses the facts to support conclusions that may or may not be correct.
As does every person putting together a story.
And he isn't, far as I can tell, excluding any inconvenient facts- which on the flip is exactly what the nutbags do.

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bottom line- it isn't being pushed as a news piece and until we know something (anything) about Dump's motives, i.e. until he stops acting completely irrationally, I got no issue with smart people trying to make sense of it. And I have zero faith that Dump is on the up and up. Nothing about his past, especially the recent past, indicates that he is.
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Hardly suprising: :roll:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ally-yates
Acting attorney general Sally Yates writes to lawyers, describing ‘solemn obligation to seek justice and stand for what is right’

and wait for it...... Sally Yates is subsequently fired.

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and replaced with :lol:

not sure how long this 'update'/edit on wikipedia will last.
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Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 pm

They're clearly making an end run around the checks and balances that underpin the freedom these drymounts have pretended to love so much.
The fears of a coup, whatever form that might take, even a short-term hijacking for cash.... are absolutely not unfounded.

ps the best 10 minutes from espnfl in years.
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fredo wrote:
jjttdw wrote: However, the author uses the facts to support conclusions that may or may not be correct.
As does every person putting together a story.
And he isn't, far as I can tell, excluding any inconvenient facts- which on the flip is exactly what the nutbags do.

edit:
bottom line- it isn't being pushed as a news piece and until we know something (anything) about Dump's motives, i.e. until he stops acting completely irrationally, I got no issue with smart people trying to make sense of it. And I have zero faith that Dump is on the up and up. Nothing about his past, especially the recent past, indicates that he is.
jjttdw wrote: You are missing the point. There are certainly facts in the piece. However, the author uses the facts to support conclusions that may or may not be correct. Maybe I'm wrong but Gorkie seemed to be asking for someone to prove the conclusion as factually incorrect. The author's conclusion is an opinion and not a fact.
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Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:12 pm

FTFY?

You'd have to ask gorkie what he's thinking, but dismissing the piece as intellectual fudge is not the same as re-clarifying that its conclusions are not facts, because:
a) of course they aren't, and
b) the author states as much.

And one last time- Dump's actions warrant exceptional (alternative?) conjecture because his admin is acting so far beyond the pale, so exceptionally close to tyranny as to, well... warrant exceptional conjecture.
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Alleged mosque shooter known as a right-wing supporter who “liked” Trump, Marine LePen

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Drumpf just fired the head of immigration and customs enforcement agency.
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We should mark the unemployment rate and value of a dollar and take a look back to 11/21/16 after 1-2 years and we'll see what alternate facts they say then.

I feel like I'm in a bad reality tv show, "How to Kill the Worlds best Country in 30 days."
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thebends9 wrote:This is the strangest life I've ever known.
Ok, now it's a party.
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