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Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:36 am

IWish wrote:
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Way in the beginning of this pandemic, that man in the WH, questioned his med experts: "Why don't we just let this "wash over" the country? I translated, "wash over" to mean herd immunity. Fauci changed his mind about that. I'm gonna' say that's how he wanted to handle the pandemic. So, here we are just waiting to get herded.
I don’t want to get into the political side of things because the mods and fin were pretty clear they don’t want politics on this forum. So I will try to stick with just COVID, which I think is interesting, important, and fair game.

It appears that there is consistently more and more evidence that herd immunity ain’t going to work, or at the least it is definitely not the best way to proceed. There was an article at CBC today about yet another study that also suggests it isn’t necessarily going to work. The study is from China, but it looks like it was already peer-reviewed.

CBC: Asymptomatic COVID-19 findings dim hopes for 'herd immunity' and 'immunity passports'

While I agree that we are all still going in the blind for the most part, it seems to me that, even without considering the additional mortalities and strictly monetary speaking, herd immunity is a more costly way of dealing with this pandemic. I guess time will tell.

Right now, in my opinion, many places in the world, even some of those that had been hit pretty hard, are throwing the freshly learned lessons under the rag and blindly (or even worse in plain sight?) stepping in a huge pile of fudge again “hoping” they won’t get dirty.

IWish wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:39 am
There's not much we can do, bubbie; other than, stay home, wear PPE, etc. The main dude ain't got our backs. For that matter, WHO and CDC didn't have our backs either...by LYING to the public regarding the use of face coverings in the beginning. Don't get me started on that! Heh.
It’s unfortunate and I understand. However, I think it is people themselves who make decisions to not wear a mask where distancing isn’t possible, fill up a beach, a bar, soon a movie theatre, etc. I wrote in the other, now deleted thread, way in the beginning of this thing, why not act responsibly and accordingly on the individual level instead of waiting for the forced shutdowns, etc. It still applies today; perhaps, even more so. I do get the fact the leadership is supposed to be leading, but what happened to common sense and individual responsibility for oneself and one’s society? That’s what I don’t get. Especially, when certain individuals go an extra mile and effort to prove their ignorance by sneaking into another country that clearly had chosen another approach to solving the problem.

Similarly to the latter, we have a bunch of people here in Alberta who were going deep sea fishing to Prince Rupert, BC while the residents of Prince Rupert didn’t want them there. In that case there were no travel restrictions, only recommendations against it, but nonetheless. Where is common sense and simple respect?

While I believe the WHO dropped the ball on other things, I don’t believe they were lying about the face coverings. They simply worked with the knowledge they had at the time.

ToolFanFromWayBack wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:16 pm
Wait, where is the politics thread? Why is this in random posts?
Lol.

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I agree with your points, but also what I said above.



If anyone is interested in the subject, there was a pretty good read in The Globe and Mail the other day. It is fairy long, but easy to read.

Why is COVID-19 so much more dangerous to men? This Canadian geneticist has a personal stake in finding out
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:33 am

While I believe the WHO dropped the ball on other things, I don’t believe they were lying about the face coverings. They simply worked with the knowledge they had at the time.
WHO, CDC and did not recommend masks for the general public. (Fauci is guilty of this, too.) I get it...they wanted to prevent panic buying due to shortages and the need to take care of the front line workers. WHO, CDC, Fauci and others should have acted responsibly - it's their job.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... wear-masks

It was easy enough for them to reach out to the general public - recommending use "homemade" cloth face coverings early in this pandemic. I seem to recall it being reported by them that either cloth masks didn't work at all...maybe even suggesting that wearing one could possibly increase chances of getting sick.

It's possible that it's a matter of how I "translated" the information they were releasing at that time. I'm not inclined to go doomsday searching for articles to back that up. It doesn't matter...damage has already been done.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:14 pm

^ Yes, they said it won’t make any difference and may even cause harm in some cases. I don’t think it was an outright lie though.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:31 pm

bubbie wrote:
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^ Yes, they said it won’t make any difference and may even cause harm in some cases. I don’t think it was an outright lie though.
Not an outright lie. Like if your boss said they're not giving you a raise because you would just use the extra amount on hookers and drugs and would probably go further into debt if you got the raise.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:19 pm

Speaking of hookers,


Luls. UN unites.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:34 pm

veltri wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:31 pm

Not an outright lie. Like if your boss said they're not giving you a raise because you would just use the extra amount on hookers and drugs and would probably go further into debt if you got the raise.
It's like my Boss lives in my head then.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:58 pm

As of tonight, the AZ governor closed all bars in the state for at least the next 30 days. Ditto gyms, water parks, movie theater.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:27 am

^ I don’t think there is any other way around it. Weird that they thought there was. It will happen everywhere where cases skyrocket.

We had 72 cases today in AB, the most per day in about 1.5 months. We will see how that goes. Masks are still optional, but encouraged where social distancing isn’t possible. Wonder if or when that will change. I don’t believe anywhere in Canada masks are mandatory yet.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:16 am

Our state was nowhere near meeting the criteria for reopening back in May. Governor started opening things up early...a day or two after "that man in the WH" visited our State. Two weeks later, we see a huge spike in cv cases.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:54 am

IWish wrote:
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Our state was nowhere near meeting the criteria for reopening back in May. Governor started opening things up early...a day or two after "that man in the WH" visited our State. Two weeks later, we see a huge spike in cv cases.
who could have predicted? Certainly not scientists.
A public relations nightmare

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Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:15 pm

For those who have pets. It would probably be a good idea to have a plan in place. Who will take care of your pet(s) if you get sick? Just sayin...
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:33 am

It’s pretty insane what this virus can do. I remember reading about this guy back in the very beginning of April. He died on today, three months later, being 41.

AP: Broadway veteran Nick Cordero dies from virus complications

Cordero entered the emergency room on March 30 and had a succession of health setbacks, including mini-strokes, blood clots, septic infections, a tracheostomy and a temporary pacemaker implanted. He had been on a ventilator and unconscious and had his right leg amputated. A double lung transplant was being explored.

Crazy fudge. RIP.
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Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 pm

Bravo
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That's what she said
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Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:03 pm

Dat was actually pretty apt during the Great Covid Panic.
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