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howdyall
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:28 pm

GiantBoyDective wrote:That's not always true fwiw. I've seen similar situations where they refund people if there are so many complaining about the same thing.
Pending news in this regard…
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:31 pm

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mattkardish
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:49 pm

i mean i'd rather not get kicked out... i've waited this long what's another year. i thought the stuff was cool back when i didn't know what cool was
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:01 pm

mattkardish wrote:i mean i'd rather not get kicked out... i've waited this long what's another year. i thought the stuff was cool back when i didn't know what cool was
I couldn't do it. And won't. This guy doesn't have any respect for the people who's money he has. If he kicks you out, he can't just keep the cash - you're better off bailing early and asking for your money back.
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:21 pm

Ok, since the cat is out of the bag at this point:

I called my bank, and because the purchase is for a single item with payments ranging across a large amount of time, they'll only dispute and refund the first payment, which I've initiated. The final charge for shipping has also been disputed, meaning that at this point, I'll be getting back $60 of $98 spent, which is better than nothing. He did charge $20 for shipping, which, after using recycled materials and overcharging for shipping, is indicative of fraudulent behavior, according to PayPal (although this is something they rarely ever hear about).

The bigger issue is the pattern established by the seller:

Multiple payments, from one customer, for one product, spanning years, without delivery, happening with likely dozens of buyers, resulting in hundreds of transactions, over the entirety of the products being commissioned.

What needs to happen now is that others need to speak up, and also bail before paying for shipping. The more people that report him, the more likely we all get every penny back, all transactions are cancelled, and he's permabanned from PayPal. Now that he is being investigated by PayPal and likely to have his account restricted, it's likely he won't even be able to process shipping payments to him, meaning anyone who is still waiting probably will never get their print, anyways. It could very well get ugly for people who wish to remain silent, so don't keep quiet. Speak up, and walk away.

And that's that. other interesting things may be added here later, but that's the deal for now.
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:22 pm

cotis wrote:
GiantBoyDective wrote:That's not always true fwiw. I've seen similar situations where they refund people if there are so many complaining about the same thing.
few and far between.

lolz
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danieldanger wrote:what you do aint hustlin. see, in MY hustle, i get to sell the whole run and each print only costs me like $6. y'alls is small potatoe street level fudge.
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:31 pm

friends don't let friends participate in commissions. wait, just don't commish period.
pay via paypal, use credit card,file dispute at the 20 day mark if suspicious. don't deal with noobs. don't trade with noobs. request feedback ahead of time. there are lots of good people 'round here.
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:34 pm

I don't collect a ton, just a fan of the property. No idea it would go this way.
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:38 pm

Wow you nuked his PayPal? Well this thread got resolved quickly and real definitive like.
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:43 pm

AliRock110 wrote:Wow you nuked his PayPal? Well this thread got resolved quickly and real definitive like.
It's just under investigation at this point, but I spoke with someone in management, and if the pattern is as I've indicated, it will not go well for him.
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mobius006
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:06 pm

man... can a good commission group get A Scanner Darkly going?
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Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:49 pm

mobius006 wrote:man... can a good commission group get A Scanner Darkly going?

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Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:32 pm

cdhague wrote:Yeah, I've seen him at my local Alamo. Also in a Greg Ruth commission he's been running for nearly 2 years and we're getting updates only when pressing for them.
I'm in 2 of his commissions and yeah, this sounds about right. Hopefully that number is going to be down to 1 here soon.
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Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:35 am

I don't get how commissions can take this long. I've only done 2, but I timed it so that I didn't have money from members for long and using a quality printer like D&L means you get good fudge printed in a timely manner. So many people drymount it up though
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