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Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:37 am

Paging Olly Moss...
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:16 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:Paging Olly Moss...
Dont page Olly just call the doctor.
Note to fan artists... Olly Moss is clever, therefore by ripping his style you almost always automatically disqualify yourself from being clever by association.
This isn't even a clever visual pun. Just a wild swing and miss at an Olly visual play.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:39 pm

jagiello wrote:
wonkabars7 wrote:Paging Olly Moss...
Dont page Olly just call the doctor.
Note to fan artists... Olly Moss is clever, therefore by ripping his style you almost always automatically disqualify yourself from being clever by association.
This isn't even a clever visual pun. Just a wild swing and miss at an Olly visual play.
Well said.

Minimalism is one thing, a style that is obviously bigger than Moss and other folks, but this is nothing more than theft.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:45 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:
jagiello wrote:
wonkabars7 wrote:Paging Olly Moss...
Dont page Olly just call the doctor.
Note to fan artists... Olly Moss is clever, therefore by ripping his style you almost always automatically disqualify yourself from being clever by association.
This isn't even a clever visual pun. Just a wild swing and miss at an Olly visual play.
Well said.

Minimalism is one thing, a style that is obviously bigger than Moss and other folks, but this is nothing more than theft.
Is it considered theft, if everyone recognizes this as obviously not Olly?

I picture an artist pitching to a bunch of suits (that have no idea who Olly is) a simple clever image. They eat it up and wonder why no one buys an image that is so clever and simple. The artist shrugs is shoulders and walks to the bank.
Stupid Suits.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:50 pm

Nevermind, he's done this before :shock:

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ackirkpatrick wrote:Nevermind, he's done this before :shock:
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:30 pm

ackirkpatrick wrote:
wonkabars7 wrote:
jagiello wrote:
wonkabars7 wrote:Paging Olly Moss...
Dont page Olly just call the doctor.
Note to fan artists... Olly Moss is clever, therefore by ripping his style you almost always automatically disqualify yourself from being clever by association.
This isn't even a clever visual pun. Just a wild swing and miss at an Olly visual play.
Well said.

Minimalism is one thing, a style that is obviously bigger than Moss and other folks, but this is nothing more than theft.
Is it considered theft, if everyone recognizes this as obviously not Olly?

I picture an artist pitching to a bunch of suits (that have no idea who Olly is) a simple clever image. They eat it up and wonder why no one buys an image that is so clever and simple. The artist shrugs is shoulders and walks to the bank.
Stupid Suits.
As the artist in question, I would never deny being strongly influenced by Olly Moss's work. He was the first artist to inspire me to do poster art. But saying i ripped him off is silly. That would be like saying he ripped off Rubin's Vase for his Indiana Jones poster, He merely took the idea and adapted, and repurposed it. Not everyone who takes a black and white photo of Yellowstone is ripping off Ansel Adams. Not every stencil artist is ripping off Banksy. I'm strongly influenced by Olly the same way he is obviously influenced by other artists like Saul Bass, Milton Glaser, or Shigeo Fukuda. Being clever and finding interesting and different ways to display imagery is one of the cores of all graphic design. Olly Moss is not the first one to come up with "clever" designs. He is however one of the best currently doing it. If I had used a gun/profile to make a Die Hard poster or something nearly identical, I could see the argument, but all I did look to his design, as inspiration to make my own.
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HunterLangston wrote:
As the artist in question, I would never deny being strongly influenced by Olly Moss's work. He was the first artist to inspire me to do poster art. But saying i ripped him off is silly. That would be like saying he ripped off Rubin's Vase for his Indiana Jones poster, He merely took the idea and adapted, and repurposed it. Not everyone who takes a black and white photo of Yellowstone is ripping off Ansel Adams. Not every stencil artist is ripping off Banksy. I'm strongly influenced by Olly the same way he is obviously influenced by other artists like Saul Bass, Milton Glaser, or Shigeo Fukuda. Being clever and finding interesting and different ways to display imagery is one of the cores of all graphic design. Olly Moss is not the first one to come up with "clever" designs. He is however one of the best currently doing it. If I had used a gun/profile to make a Die Hard poster or something nearly identical, I could see the argument, but all I did look to his design, as inspiration to make my own.
Nicely said.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:03 pm

Codeblue wrote:
ackirkpatrick wrote:Nevermind, he's done this before :shock:
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Fixed again.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:19 pm

Not really.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:24 pm

Sorry man. Sounds like a rationalization.

IMO, your work here is beyond the homage approach.
Obviously Olly is influenced by a number of artistic sources. From what I have seen, you just reuse/tweak Ollys stuff directly.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:36 pm

HunterLangston wrote: As the artist in question, I would never deny being strongly influenced by Olly Moss's work. He was the first artist to inspire me to do poster art. But saying i ripped him off is silly. That would be like saying he ripped off Rubin's Vase for his Indiana Jones poster, He merely took the idea and adapted, and repurposed it. Not everyone who takes a black and white photo of Yellowstone is ripping off Ansel Adams. Not every stencil artist is ripping off Banksy. I'm strongly influenced by Olly the same way he is obviously influenced by other artists like Saul Bass, Milton Glaser, or Shigeo Fukuda. Being clever and finding interesting and different ways to display imagery is one of the cores of all graphic design. Olly Moss is not the first one to come up with "clever" designs. He is however one of the best currently doing it. If I had used a gun/profile to make a Die Hard poster or something nearly identical, I could see the argument, but all I did look to his design, as inspiration to make my own.
If the piece itself was actually clever or vaguely unique or in some way well executed then you could make a case for it standing on it's own or being merely "influenced" by Moss.
You didn't take it conceptually or technically far enough from it's source inspiration for it to be beyond reproach. As it stands now it's just another in a long line of opportunistic bootlegs flooding the market.
Add to that copyright infringement for the illegal use of a licensed title and you have a slippery slope for it's defense as a piece of original graphic design.
If you really want to forge out as a graphic designer then you need to put your thinking cap back on, bolster your technique and be sure not to join the bootleggers club.
Best of luck. If you know who Milton Glazer is there might be hope for you yet.
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