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Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:31 pm
by tourist504
On one hand: "Only thieves and vandals have made money on Calvin and Hobbes merchandise." -Watterson, Bill (1995). Calvin and Hobbes Tenth Anniversary Book. Andrews and McMeel. p. 12.

On the other hand: "But I want it." -buyers of this print

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:43 pm
by MoviePosterEmpire
tourist504 wrote:On one hand: "Only thieves and vandals have made money on Calvin and Hobbes merchandise." -Watterson, Bill (1995). Calvin and Hobbes Tenth Anniversary Book. Andrews and McMeel. p. 12.

On the other hand: "But I want it." -buyers of this print
Is it still technically merchandise if it wasn't sold in a retail outlet?

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:46 pm
by Diabolos80
sold=merchandise. Losing some momentum now...

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:50 pm
by MoviePosterEmpire
Diabolos80 wrote:sold=merchandise. Losing some momentum now...
But it's not really sold if people are pooling money to commission art. If the art already existed, you'd be buying art, but you're paying to create art. You could argue the same for the printer, that you're paying for a service and not merchandise.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:59 pm
by 35mmpaul
So are you guys going to be this angry when in 2060 and Calvin and Hobbes goes into public domain?

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:02 pm
by lujborg
Real fans have respect for Wattersons's wishes. Case closed!

The thieving artist and the printer have both profited here (at a minimum) - to say this is not for profit is an insult to the mostly intelligent people on eb.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:05 pm
by 35mmpaul
lujborg wrote:Real fans have respect for Wattersons's wishes. Case closed!

The "artist" and the printer have all profited here - to say this is not for profit is an insult.
Thanks true believer. You clearly know how to show respect to people.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:06 pm
by alittle
Watching you morons try and rationalize this fudge is hilarious.

This is a unique example where the artist has specifically gone out of his way to ask people not to be thieving kittens and to respect his vision for the characters, but y'all had to go and be a bunch of kittens anyways.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:08 pm
by tourist504
MoviePosterEmpire wrote:
tourist504 wrote:On one hand: "Only thieves and vandals have made money on Calvin and Hobbes merchandise." -Watterson, Bill (1995). Calvin and Hobbes Tenth Anniversary Book. Andrews and McMeel. p. 12.

On the other hand: "But I want it." -buyers of this print
Is it still technically merchandise if it wasn't sold in a retail outlet?
Yes.

Honestly I wasn't even going to get in the middle of this one, but reading this thread prompted me to read a little more about the man. Having done that, I can say there is no way Mr. Watterson (who is very much alive) would approve of this comission, retail or not. No way.

I doubt this thread will be the end of this, and frankly I believe this will end up putting other future comissions in jeopardy.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:09 pm
by tourist504
alittle wrote:Watching you morons try and rationalize this fudge is hilarious.

This is a unique example where the artist has specifically gone out of his way to ask people not to be thieving kittens and to respect his vision for the characters, but y'all had to go and be a bunch of kittens anyways.
Pretty much this, I think.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:13 pm
by 35mmpaul
Do you guys yell at people with calvin and hobbes bumper stickers?

And where do you guys fall on parody images? Are they thieving kittens as well?

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:14 pm
by ajmmck
kittens gotta kitten?

Ill let myself out....

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:14 pm
by 35mmpaul
God I hope this thread gets locked.

Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:16 pm
by AliRock110
Since I'm such a giver, I got a strip that reflects my feeling on this thread.

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Re: Calvin & Hobbes: The Downhill 16 Thomas

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:28 pm
by cotis
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