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Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:55 pm

o4phish20o wrote:
alittle wrote:
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readicculus86 wrote:

Oh I think I get it now. Let's portray one of the biggest d-bags in history as a superhero for killing 6 million people. I can see the people buying and hanging these on their walls explaining that to friends / family. "It's a satire piece, get it?" :roll:
But you are ok to hang this on your wall and explain it to family and friends?
http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/51761#
One is a social commentary on the commercialization of Christmas, the other is depicting a monster responsible for the biggest genocide in history as a super hero. If you think that is the same, you are not very intelligent.
and from that response... you sound like a Catholic hater...

Pontius Pilate is just as bad if not worse than Hitler... should have a Super Dick made of him as well.
the commentary is on consumerism more than Catholicism...the bastardization of j-dog's birthday
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:57 pm

So I take it this is a shoo-in for AOTW?
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:00 pm

another Austrian artist has my vote
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it's a cat, as a ball of string...come on, it's a cat, but it's a ball of string - everyone loves cats right
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:02 pm

Scenario 4: Internet db defends depiction of hitler posing as mighty figure by comparing it to satire.

What a nob.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:07 pm

choke wrote:So I take it this is a shoo-in for AOTW?

voted!
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:08 pm

readicculus86 wrote:I don't even think I could hang this (even if I owned it) because it has swastikas. And I love Stout:

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I'm glad someone brought this up. I also wouldn't hang the IB poster because of all the swastikas. Any other aspect like the quality of the film is outdone by my feelings about displaying that iconography.
On the other hand, I find this piece (Super Hitler ...or whatever it's called) to be less offensive, because it is satire. It's part of a set, it's not a glorification. The point of the "Super" series is the ridiculousness of it. Anything can be made "Super" by mimicking this pose. As part of a set of these images, Hitler just becomes a "Where's Waldo" among a group.
"Look, there's AquaMan ..and Gilligan ...and the StayPuft Marshmellow Man ...and Hitler." it's all about the absurdity of the identity the pose conveys and nothing more.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:10 pm

Agreed fully.
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That's what she said
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:14 pm

electrachrome wrote:
readicculus86 wrote:I don't even think I could hang this (even if I owned it) because it has swastikas. And I love Stout:

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I'm glad someone brought this up. I also wouldn't hang the IB poster because of all the swastikas. Any other aspect like the quality of the film is outdone by my feelings about displaying that iconography.
On the other hand, I find this piece (Super Hitler ...or whatever it's called) to be less offensive, because it is satire. It's part of a set, it's not a glorification. The point of the "Super" series is the ridiculousness of it. Anything can be made "Super" by mimicking this pose. As part of a set of these images, Hitler just becomes a "Where's Waldo" among a group.
"Look, there's AquaMan ..and Gilligan ...and the StayPuft Marshmellow Man ...and Hitler." it's all about the absurdity of the identity the pose conveys and nothing more.
the swastika goes way back before hitler in terms of symbology.
In Buddhism, the swastika is a symbol of good fortune, prosperity, abundance and eternity. It is directly related to Buddha and can be found carved on statues on the soles of his feet and on his heart. It is said that it contains Buddha’s mind.
if you were a buddhist, maybe you could look beyond the fact that someone else appropriated it along the way and used it to symbolize their own agenda. if i started killing children in the name of the lord with a cross on my chest, would you then denounce your religion? oh, fudge, that actually happened already (the killing part with a cross on the chest of the murderers)
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:18 pm

electrachrome wrote:
readicculus86 wrote:I don't even think I could hang this (even if I owned it) because it has swastikas. And I love Stout:

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I'm glad someone brought this up. I also wouldn't hang the IB poster because of all the swastikas. Any other aspect like the quality of the film is outdone by my feelings about displaying that iconography.
On the other hand, I find this piece (Super Hitler ...or whatever it's called) to be less offensive, because it is satire. It's part of a set, it's not a glorification. The point of the "Super" series is the ridiculousness of it. Anything can be made "Super" by mimicking this pose. As part of a set of these images, Hitler just becomes a "Where's Waldo" among a group.
"Look, there's AquaMan ..and Gilligan ...and the StayPuft Marshmellow Man ...and Hitler." it's all about the absurdity of the identity the pose conveys and nothing more.
This is by far the best and most intelligent summation of the Hitler piece.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:19 pm

In Spain when I was there ,93 , you could buy figurines , toys , of Fascist , Falangist , Opus Dei muther fuckas in that exact pose . They're weren't being satirical either . I also saw some Salvador Dali's of Hitler too Some of those satirical others not so sure . This guy is too formulaic cookie cutter for me to handle
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:33 pm

lujborg wrote:the swastika goes way back before hitler in terms of symbology.
In Buddhism, the swastika is a symbol of good fortune, prosperity, abundance and eternity. It is directly related to Buddha and can be found carved on statues on the soles of his feet and on his heart. It is said that it contains Buddha’s mind.
if you were a buddhist, maybe you could look beyond the fact that someone else appropriated it along the way and used it to symbolize their own agenda. if i started killing children in the name of the lord with a cross on my chest, would you then denounce your religion? oh, fudge, that actually happened already (the killing part with a cross on the chest of the murderers)
I realize the swastika image goes back thousands of years ...and represents goodness to those cultures who used it. Within our contemporary timeframe, it has been corrupted. It'll take more than just a few generations to undo the taint that is associated with it.
A great many people in this world have a good reason to feel the same way about the cross. You'll get no argument from me on that.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:40 pm

electrachrome wrote:
lujborg wrote:the swastika goes way back before hitler in terms of symbology.
In Buddhism, the swastika is a symbol of good fortune, prosperity, abundance and eternity. It is directly related to Buddha and can be found carved on statues on the soles of his feet and on his heart. It is said that it contains Buddha’s mind.
if you were a buddhist, maybe you could look beyond the fact that someone else appropriated it along the way and used it to symbolize their own agenda. if i started killing children in the name of the lord with a cross on my chest, would you then denounce your religion? oh, fudge, that actually happened already (the killing part with a cross on the chest of the murderers)
I realize the swastika image goes back thousands of years ...and represents goodness to those cultures who used it. Within our contemporary timeframe, it has been corrupted. It'll take more than just a few generations to undo the taint that is associated with it.
A great many people in this world have a good reason to feel the same way about the cross. You'll get no argument from me on that.
my point is it's only corrupted because of culture. we may be operating within its context, but it's your choice as to whether or not you buy in.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:10 pm

Corrupted because of culture. Ok...
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:13 pm

edgar wrote:Corrupted because of culture. Ok...

same symbol has a different meaning depending on your culture. it's a pretty simple concept.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:25 pm

Jesus :lol:
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