Jaws 13 Durieux

RambosRemodeler · Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:21 pm

Congrats on the sale buddy

Wockenfuss · Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:03 pm

Holy testicle Tuesday.

wonkabars7 · Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:15 pm

Sold for $2,250. Guess that damage on the side knocked off $250 from asking price.

Goes to show that slight damage/wear on in demand, modern prints like this are sometimes taken too seriously if not blown out of proportion.

Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:11 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:Goes to show that slight damage/wear on in demand, modern prints like this are sometimes taken too seriously if not blown out of proportion.

^^

Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:13 pm

Wow... the prices on this passed idiocy long time ago and are now in full-blown 'EBer territory

jvphish · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:16 pm

i'll sell my AP for $4000 if anyone is interested

wonkabars7 · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:33 pm

This high sale doesn't count because of a hairline border crease? Seems like the 'not counted' criteria needs to be reevaluated here.

tranito · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:34 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:Sold for $2,250. Guess that damage on the side knocked off $250 from asking price.

Goes to show that slight damage/wear on in demand, modern prints like this are sometimes taken too seriously if not blown out of proportion.

Have to disagree. Sure, if you're selling to a total noob with tons of cash who really wants a print and the only one sitting on ebay when he happens to be shopping for it makes him feel like he's staring at an opportunity he can't let go, then yeah, he'll pay what needs to be paid to get what he wants and minor damage doesn't come into play at all. But as soon as you're dealing with the aware, who has decent knowledge of the market, who has a few options to shop from, in maybe different conditions, damage almost always takes a good cut off the top dollar figure a print could have fetched. It's just how it is.

wonkabars7 · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:37 pm

The aware vs. non-aware market is still the market. Any hobby is like this.

Sure, picky collectors on a niche forum might hold out for mint and for less $, but that doesn't make a realized sale invalid.

tranito · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:43 pm

Not saying sale is invalid. Just saying if you rely on this particular example of a sale to get to the conclusion that minor damage is blown out of proportion and doesn't affect value, I say you're looking at one tree.. take a few steps back to look at the forest. Tons of examples show minor damage does affect value quite a bit. Buyer didn't give a fudge here though.

wonkabars7 · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:48 pm

tranito wrote:Not saying sale is invalid. Just saying if you rely on this particular example of a sale to get to the conclusion that minor damage is blown out of proportion and doesn't affect value, I say you're looking at one tree.. take a few steps back to look at the forest. Tons of examples show minor damage does affect value quite a bit. Buyer didn't give a fudge here though.

I would agree with this for sure. Perhaps I am speaking more to the dwindling availability and general market trend on this.

This is one of a very select and small group of prints that I would say is bigger than our forum or general modern print collectors as a whole. The outside/non-collectors will notice this print, Moss SW set, Slater Goldfinger, etc...above all others because of mainstream media noticing how they stand above their peers artistically (and several other reasons) so to speak. Because of this, these sales will bring top dollar each time one surfaces and disappears forever, which as non-collectors reach out and snatch one, you can guarantee this happening.

Froilan · Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:50 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:The aware vs. non-aware market is still the market. Any hobby is like this.

Sure, picky collectors on a niche forum might hold out for mint and for less $, but that doesn't make a realized sale invalid.

Froilan · Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:08 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:This high sale doesn't count because of a hairline border crease? Seems like the 'not counted' criteria needs to be reevaluated here.

Why is it not counted? I don't understand it. It doesn't make any sense at all. But then again. If it changes the average price of the print to a lower amount then fudge I'm all for it!

Kramerica · Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:13 pm

I think Durieux's signature means more than the creases.

Wockenfuss · Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:20 pm

wonkabars7 wrote:This high sale doesn't count because of a hairline border crease? Seems like the 'not counted' criteria needs to be reevaluated here.

No matter what the EB average price is, it'll sure as hell count as far as future sellers. A new baseline price has been established.