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Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:14 am
by 63schoeffling
Yeah, the company or team you are using sounds like garbage. Pretty sure you can go online and find someone competent tomorrow.

Make sure you leave some neg feedback on whatever site you got them from. Oof.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:50 pm
by felocin
That's a bummer to hear, hoping some action is taken soon to either motivate the company not following through with their end of the deal or dumping them for a competent service that can do what they've been paid for. Seems like with the money requested a professional website service could be obtained, though not sure how much was actually raised.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:04 pm
by mike123230
again, like a weekly or bi-weekly update would be great. Even if the update is "sorry guys, there's really not much of an update." The long stretches between even an acknowledgement here is what I think is upsetting people.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:47 pm
by aldobishalini
mike123230 wrote:again, like a weekly or bi-weekly update would be great. Even if the update is "sorry guys, there's really not much of an update." The long stretches between even an acknowledgement here is what I think is upsetting people.
Paid by the people, for the people. Should be complete transparency, but instead we are left with virtually nothing. I am about to go on a 6+ month deployment and i expect to come back to the same antiquated site.... :clap:

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:10 pm
by Yamar
mike123230 wrote:again, like a weekly or bi-weekly update would be great. Even if the update is "sorry guys, there's really not much of an update." The long stretches between even an acknowledgement here is what I think is upsetting people.
That's where we disagree. I think it's even MORE frustrating - to the public AND more so to the person who has to write it (me) - to post that type of note over and over. As mfaith has said, there hasn't been anything to report, so it's sort of pointless to do so.
As for finding other possible options, we DID. I solicited options and bids for 18 months prior to starting this from a variety of companies and individuals. We reached out constantly to the public/members here. Know how many actual bids we were able to get? 3. A whopping 3. And two of those came at a LOT of time on my end to push and hash things out. My own feeling is that we're deemed not large enough profile to get the attention of most companies and so putting in a bid just didn't fit. Or maybe I'm wrong on that, but simple note is that there were not a lot of options to choose from.
In current (and again, as mfaith already correctly stated), this is a business dealing NOT someone not shipping a tube here. You can't just run out in public when you're trying to assess the best means of managing the situation and being able to move forward. And at this point, that's what we're trying to figure out. But we're also still doing this on borrowed time from our full time jobs and families, so it's not exactly easy to always find and time the energy needed to get it done like it was our 9-5 gig.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:29 am
by Woo5lscott
I’m sure if you asked Bottleneck for some IT help, they probably would have at least passed a name along

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:52 am
by mike123230
Yamar wrote:
mike123230 wrote:again, like a weekly or bi-weekly update would be great. Even if the update is "sorry guys, there's really not much of an update." The long stretches between even an acknowledgement here is what I think is upsetting people.
That's where we disagree. I think it's even MORE frustrating - to the public AND more so to the person who has to write it (me) - to post that type of note over and over. As mfaith has said, there hasn't been anything to report, so it's sort of pointless to do so.
As for finding other possible options, we DID. I solicited options and bids for 18 months prior to starting this from a variety of companies and individuals. We reached out constantly to the public/members here. Know how many actual bids we were able to get? 3. A whopping 3. And two of those came at a LOT of time on my end to push and hash things out. My own feeling is that we're deemed not large enough profile to get the attention of most companies and so putting in a bid just didn't fit. Or maybe I'm wrong on that, but simple note is that there were not a lot of options to choose from.
In current (and again, as mfaith already correctly stated), this is a business dealing NOT someone not shipping a tube here. You can't just run out in public when you're trying to assess the best means of managing the situation and being able to move forward. And at this point, that's what we're trying to figure out. But we're also still doing this on borrowed time from our full time jobs and families, so it's not exactly easy to always find and time the energy needed to get it done like it was our 9-5 gig.
We can disagree on this, and recognizing that you and I do not have the same sort of client-provider relationship, but if a client emailed me and I didn't respond for weeks because I had no update, I would either (a) lose that client, (b) get a stern talking to from my higher ups, (c) get fired, or (d) some sort of combination thereof. "No updates" is still an update as it at least informs people that it's at the very least on the site's admin's radar. I've been brought up to believe that silence is much more deafening in these sorts of situations.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:17 pm
by noweyesee
Never seen so many pissed off $5 donors before. Yelling at the mods isn’t going to help the situation, I’m sure they are more frustrated about how this has played out than anyone else. Give it a rest.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:31 pm
by SPAC04
I'm fine with a lack of updates granted functionality returns eventually. its obviously complicated, I appreciate the mods who keep this place alive. I would rather the site not boot me every refresh tho.
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+1 for unpinning (and maybe scratching the latter half of the title) of this thread

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:22 pm
by fredo
You gotta talk to Moe about that.

ps So we're clients now? Sweet. Take me to lunch, EB. By the water's fine.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:53 pm
by Codeblue
noweyesee wrote:Never seen so many pissed off $5 donors before. Yelling at the mods isn’t going to help the situation, I’m sure they are more frustrated about how this has played out than anyone else. Give it a rest.
Pretty sure most who donated put in more than #igot5onit. fudge, one duke put in a g (then again a g to him is prolly like $10 to most people).

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:13 pm
by SwampButt
Yeah kickstarter pledge money gets refunded if the project isn’t completed. Hilarious how this site is like the most ratchet one I visit, yet it pleaded for a fulfilled donation goal

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:26 pm
by fredo
You're great though.

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:53 am
by 1000steps
mfaith wrote:we're all in this together
When an authority figure says this, hold your wallet and sanity tight, cuz things goin get ugly

Re: Site Update - Capital Fundraising

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:07 pm
by mfaith
I'm a member of the community... (with as much or more invested than anyone else). Silly goose