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Postby kansasbbq on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:23 am

8 ply FTW....they look great!
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Postby peacedog on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:11 am

Codeblue wrote:
peacedog wrote:No glass anywhere, UV coated or not will protect against direct sunlight. We're talking about every other light source, especially CFL's that are replacing incandescent bulbs in homes and are very high in UV.

Is the amount of UV given off by the CFL bulbs actually enough to "damage" artwork protected by standard glass?


Yes. They're fluorescent light bulbs, very high in UV.


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peacedog wrote:No glass anywhere, UV coated or not will protect against direct sunlight. We're talking about every other light source, especially CFL's that are replacing incandescent bulbs in homes and are very high in UV.


could you elaborate? perhaps it's the phrasing, but it sounds like you're saying UV-protective materials don't actually do what they advertise? or do you mean if it's not UV glass? thanks!


The sun is a fiery ball of radiation that will cook anything left exposed, including artwork. No UV glass anywhere is advertised to protect against it, or meant to.
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Postby Pizz1449 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:50 am

Benelli wrote:all right had to repaint the wall, but it was worth it. This is also my first "Framing" post so if I miss something or you have a question just ask.

These things are massive and the framer and I wanted to make this an impressive presentation but still let the prints speak for themselves.

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well done...luckily i can come and visit to check them out :pint:
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Postby FlapJack on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:51 pm

dasher12 wrote:Those look incredible Benelli !


Some day I'll own one of these posters ...
Ahhh, who am I kidding? - no I won't!

Those turned out great!
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Postby guerilladubber on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:33 pm

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Postby jlabbate on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:42 pm

the SW set looks fantastic..very classy :clap:
its a drymounting travesty that my set is still not framed and rotting away in my portfolio..need to get on that ASAP!!
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Postby mike123230 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:44 pm

jlabbate wrote:the SW set looks fantastic..very classy :clap:
its a drymounting travesty that my set is still not framed and rotting away in my portfolio..need to get on that ASAP!!


Agreed...but then to hear about a $1K+ frame job to do it right, and I just get sad.
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Postby SurfingJeff on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:45 pm

mike123230 wrote:
jlabbate wrote:the SW set looks fantastic..very classy :clap:
its a drymounting travesty that my set is still not framed and rotting away in my portfolio..need to get on that ASAP!!


Agreed...but then to hear about a $1K+ frame job to do it right, and I just get sad.


Was going to say the same thing - framing three 24"x36" prints is no small investment of time and wall space. Worth it for these guys though ...
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Postby Benelli on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:04 pm

mike123230 wrote:
jlabbate wrote:the SW set looks fantastic..very classy :clap:
its a drymounting travesty that my set is still not framed and rotting away in my portfolio..need to get on that ASAP!!


Agreed...but then to hear about a $1K+ frame job to do it right, and I just get sad.


I'm picking up my Silence TV Akira this weekend, floated on 8 ply rag with a 8 ply gray boarder and full museum treatment.

Another 500.00 for what is basically a 18x24, once you utter the words museum to a framer and your not doing the work yourself your going to pay.

But on the positive side these prints will last longer then I will, and hopefully be cherished just as long they survive...
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Postby finalfilppula on Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:12 pm

peacedog wrote:The sun is a fiery ball of radiation that will cook anything left exposed, including artwork. No UV glass anywhere is advertised to protect against it, or meant to.


One more thing--Would that include rooms with some indirect sunlight? I can't imagine totally avoiding sunlight for any frame that i'd hang up on a wall. Sounds like it's impossible to enjoy these prints without inevitably incurring irrevocable damage. Thanks!
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Postby rubberneck on Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:29 pm

Benelli wrote:
mike123230 wrote:
jlabbate wrote:the SW set looks fantastic..very classy :clap:
its a drymounting travesty that my set is still not framed and rotting away in my portfolio..need to get on that ASAP!!


Agreed...but then to hear about a $1K+ frame job to do it right, and I just get sad.


I'm picking up my Silence TV Akira this weekend, floated on 8 ply rag with a 8 ply gray boarder and full museum treatment.

Another 500.00 for what is basically a 18x24, once you utter the words museum to a framer and your not doing the work yourself your going to pay.

But on the positive side these prints will last longer then I will, and hopefully be cherished just as long they survive...


Seriously...that's a helluva payout for a 18x24 screen print. I just got a standard frame, acid backing and spacers and it was $60 approx. Standard glass doesn't bother me while its in the office, the option to change it out is always there. Minimalism works for this print imo...

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I agree on the need for acid free on such a white print, any discoloration would probably show up on these over time...but realistically in your lifetime when placed indoors away from direct sunlight, this is not going to discolor anytime soon. It's chances of survival are pretty good in fact. The mats do add $$$ as does labor costs, but I think you should shop around a bit or haggle some, his figures seem high, even with floating... 8)
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Postby rubberneck on Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:31 pm

finalfilppula wrote:
peacedog wrote:The sun is a fiery ball of radiation that will cook anything left exposed, including artwork. No UV glass anywhere is advertised to protect against it, or meant to.


One more thing--Would that include rooms with some indirect sunlight? I can't imagine totally avoiding sunlight for any frame that i'd hang up on a wall. Sounds like it's impossible to enjoy these prints without inevitably incurring irrevocable damage. Thanks!



Enjoy these artworks for gods sake, get em up on the wall while you can... :pint:
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Postby peacedog on Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:04 pm

rubberneck wrote:
finalfilppula wrote:
peacedog wrote:The sun is a fiery ball of radiation that will cook anything left exposed, including artwork. No UV glass anywhere is advertised to protect against it, or meant to.


One more thing--Would that include rooms with some indirect sunlight? I can't imagine totally avoiding sunlight for any frame that i'd hang up on a wall. Sounds like it's impossible to enjoy these prints without inevitably incurring irrevocable damage. Thanks!



Enjoy these artworks for gods sake, get em up on the wall while you can... :pint:


It's not the sun, but you have to take the CFLs into account.

From a quick google search:

"One thing that is not talked about much is that CFLs emit more ultraviolet (UV) light than an incandescent bulb, which produces virtually none. Light in a CFL starts out as UV from excited gases, and is made visible by phosphors coating the inside of the tube/bulb. Incandescent light is mostly infrared emitted by heating the filament to super high temperatures (leading some to call them "heat bulbs" instead of "light bulbs"). Most of the UV from a CFL is filtered out in the conversion, but there is still some."
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Postby middayshadows on Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:17 pm

rubberneck wrote:Seriously...that's a helluva payout for a 18x24 screen print. I just got a standard frame, acid backing and spacers and it was $60 approx. ...the option to change it out is always there. Minimalism works for this print ...
rubberneck wrote:...but realistically in your lifetime when placed indoors away from direct sunlight, this is not going to discolor anytime soon.The mats do add $$$ as does labor costs

rubberneck wrote:Enjoy these artworks for gods sake, get em up on the wall while you can... :pint:


This all truth!
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Postby Benelli on Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:18 pm

rubberneck wrote:
Seriously...that's a helluva payout for a 18x24 screen print. I just got a standard frame, acid backing and spacers and it was $60 approx. Standard glass doesn't bother me while its in the office, the option to change it out is always there. Minimalism works for this print imo...

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I agree on the need for acid free on such a white print, any discoloration would probably show up on these over time...but realistically in your lifetime when placed indoors away from direct sunlight, this is not going to discolor anytime soon. It's chances of survival are pretty good in fact. The mats do add $$$ as does labor costs, but I think you should shop around a bit or haggle some, his figures seem high, even with floating... 8)


I have a lot of prints in my collection but only a few will ever get the museum quality treatment. There are the rare few that I say to myself, I want to be buried with that print, those are the ones I drop the dollars on and make sure there done right. I could never butt that Akira up against the frame like that, it puts the key focus to close to the frame and pulls the eye away. By floating, I center the piece and balance the image allowing you to take it all in, in it's entirety and present a image closer to how the artist probably intended you to view it.

The others get the 150.00 Micheals or IKEA frame and I move on.
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