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Postby mattkardish on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:24 pm

Get Out??? ... righttttttttttttttttttttttt
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Postby rubberneck on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:27 pm

mattkardish wrote:Get Out??? ... righttttttttttttttttttttttt


Diversity and a damn good film tbh. The popular choice for pure entertainment.

Blade Runner 2049 ignored in major categories tho... :hanging:
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Postby michaelmillichamp on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:30 pm

rubberneck wrote:Blade Runner 2049 ignored in major categories tho... :hanging:


I would say Cinematography is a major category.
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Postby rubberneck on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:39 pm

michaelmillichamp wrote:
rubberneck wrote:Blade Runner 2049 ignored in major categories tho... :hanging:


I would say Cinematography is a major category.


Perhaps. Still think Director, Screenplay and Gos or Ford deserved a nom. Harrison plays grizzy and old well, but felt he really opened up a bit more with emotion here.

Hopefully it'll nab at least 2 for DOP and the effects crew.
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Postby fredo on Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:16 pm

Dafoe was solid in The Florida Project, but he was completely upstaged by the mom and kid. #onlynomdmovieIseen
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Postby 35mmpaul on Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:25 pm

they were fine in the movie. nothing spectacular.
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Postby fredo on Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:31 pm

Okie dokie.
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Postby hunterjax on Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:50 pm

rubberneck wrote:
michaelmillichamp wrote:
rubberneck wrote:Blade Runner 2049 ignored in major categories tho... :hanging:


I would say Cinematography is a major category.


Perhaps. Still think Director, Screenplay and Gos or Ford deserved a nom. Harrison plays grizzy and old well, but felt he really opened up a bit more with emotion here.

Hopefully it'll nab at least 2 for DOP and the effects crew.

All of this. I stand with RN.
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Postby RottenAtom on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:29 pm

My tl;dr thoughts on the noms:

I love Blade Runner 2049 (favorite movie of the year) but no way Gos and Ford deserved nominations (see more movies RN :wink: ). Villeneuve deserved one and he wasn't even in the conversation. BR deserved one for Best Pic too.

The little girl was great in The Florida Project. I really liked her performance. The older one was fine but not awards-worthy, imo.

I'm in the "Get Out is good but overrated and unworthy of these nominations especially Best Picture, Director, and Actor" category. Solid, clever flick but Best Picture? Come on... #OscarsSoProgressive #OscarsOvercompensating #AffirmativeAction (is that last one a bit much? Yeah, probably. But kind of seems that way... this is the flipside to #OscarsSoWhite)

I'm not crazy about the Octavia Spencer nod either. She's a great actress, but she essentially plays the token black side character in that film. Give me Tiffany Haddish in Girls Trip over Octavia and Mary J. Blige (even though the movie wasn't as good, the performance was - she steals every scene she's in.)

Another actor that I like that I don't think deserved a nom was Richard Jenkins. Typical performance from him (and a forgettable character.) In the same category, I don't think Christopher Plummer deserves a nom. Another typical performance. Where is Michael Stuhlberg for Call Me By Your Name? That one scene alone is nomination-worthy. Ray Romano was better than Jenkins and Plummer.

Glad Martin McDonagh didn't get nominated for Director and I wish Peele's nom went to Villeneuve, Speilberg, or Sean Baker (all who are far more deserving, imo).

I like The Post, but can we take the 'give Meryl a nom' autopilot feature off. No way she deserves one.

After another viewing of Three Billboards, I don't care for that movie at all. Frances is good and I'm a Rockwell fan, but that movie is a mess and I think the message is misguided. (SPOILERS- She burns down the police station and it's completely obvious. No way Lester Freamon's letting her off. Also, the end is like the 'Me Too' witch hunt. They're about to possibly go after that guy and they have no evidence(!), just a gut feeling... wtf. Movie sucks.)

The Academy used to not give a damn about people's opinions of the noms/winners and due to the recent backlash (mostly from people who are not cinephiles) it feels like they're going with the popular (or the perceived progressive) choice too often instead of honoring the most deserving. Just give it a few years and one of these Disneyfied Star Wars movies will probably get nominated for Best Picture.

I like Mudbound, but I don't know how I feel about its Cinematography nod. I don't think any Netflix films should be allowed to win that award. I started watching Gangs of New York on Netflix the other day and ended up putting in the DVD for better quality.

Haven't seen the short yet, but Oscar Nominee Kobe Bryant has a nice ring to it. As a Kobe fan I'll drink to that (waited on him and he was cool/left a nice tip).

I am thrilled that Phantom Thread was shown some love and it's great that Lesley Manville was nominated. Well-deserved. Vicky Krieps should've been nominated too (especially over Meryl).

I'm not crazy about the nominees this year. Super predictable for the most part...
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Postby 35mmpaul on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:42 pm

Get Out is very worthy of it's praise. If you think it's simply because of it's subject matter and that it's 'timely' you are missing the point entirely.

you coulda made this same movie at anytime in the last 40 years and it still would say something similar about the time period it's in and essentially be the same story.

to say that it's an attempt to be hashtag woke, and that it's a diversity nod and not based on the merit of the movie is kinda frustrating to read.

its a well made, clever social thriller, that has ALOT to say, and knows exactly how to say it. there is a reason it connected with so many people even when released back in February, it's a damn fine movie that connected with a huge audience.
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Postby allyouzombies on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:43 pm

Finally got caught up on movies, so here's my Best of 2017 list:

GOLD TIER:
A Quiet Passion
Phantom Thread
The Florida Project
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

SILVER TIER:

Get Out
Lady Bird
Good Time

BRONZE TIER:
Personal Shopper
The Other Side Of Hope
Call Me By Your Name

Out of all these though, A Quiet Passion is an absolute masterpiece. I was expecting some kind of stodgy period piece - it's anything but. Streaming for free on Amazon Prime, too.
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Postby RottenAtom on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:47 pm

35mmpaul wrote:Get Out...


I think it's a good flick. I do not think it's Oscar-worthy.

Sorry to frustrate you :P
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Postby 35mmpaul on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:49 pm

RottenAtom wrote:
35mmpaul wrote:Get Out...


I think it's a good flick. I do not think it's Oscar-worthy.

Sorry to frustrate you :P


people said the same thing about Mad Max Fury Road....and they were dead wrong.

all good. i dont think it's gonna win a bunch. but to me the nominations are the win.
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Postby fredo on Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:30 pm

RottenAtom wrote:The older one was fine but not awards-worthy, imo..


She carried a ton coherently. Being lost and fucked-up, a mother, a young woman with wants/needs swimming in that predicament... I mean, the direction was clearly there and award-worthy itself, but I was moved.

Any case...
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Postby FrankBooth on Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:34 pm

Last Jedi makes 0 lists for me, maybe visual effects but even then I'd give it to BR2049.
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