are numbers produced too high?
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robertstjohn
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being this is about the only record keeping poster site
I think it effects people.....
I think it effects people.....
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fluffhead13
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Make an Omamessiah poster!!! via Letterpress or linolium press.
It seems like most artists don't do their printing now. D&L seems to have a large share of the market and they do a good job with screen printing, but I would like to see more press printing, finishing touches by artists, and maybe de/embossing.
With tech going the way it is, someone could make fakes rather easily (giclees and screen) and more customization should be done especially if an artist is going to charge $50-60 for a screen print.
It seems like most artists don't do their printing now. D&L seems to have a large share of the market and they do a good job with screen printing, but I would like to see more press printing, finishing touches by artists, and maybe de/embossing.
With tech going the way it is, someone could make fakes rather easily (giclees and screen) and more customization should be done especially if an artist is going to charge $50-60 for a screen print.
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fluffhead13
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i agree with you but you wouldn't know that by the sale history though. that can be deceiving.sasquatch wrote:One of the reasons I'm true to collecting Jay Ryan and Dan McCarthy is that they still do their own printing.
Now, someone like Brabant -- I'm not even sure his hand ever touches paper.
His new print is a bust in person.
you raise a copule very good points.
there are some 'artists' who lock in on a gimmick, and plug away at it. editions of 100, in 3 colours is pretty cheap, and they break even if they can sell 30 of them. i'm not naming any names, but there are lots of newer artists who are getting some big attention and big sales right away.
some artists, like jay ryan plug away for years, doing their thing, building their own empire... i respect that and admire his work.
but you're right about many 'new artists' who dabble in illustrator and photoshop, bang out a couple of cheap gimmicks and send a file to print.
i think you have to focus on the addage about buying what you like, and ignoring the 'flipping' value.
a few things drive this frenzy:
1. poster drops (poster is on sale at 3pm mountain time, get your F5 keys ready). remember when they just showed up on their website or just on gigposters?
2. variants: show variant, junk paper variant, glow in the dark with 2 drops of blood variant.
but if you ignore all of that and just buy what you really like, you can't go wrong.
driving the price of your prints downward is the fact that bands are doing posters for each of their shows. so if you didn't get the super scarce emek foil hologram dual signed poster, the next day you get a crack at the burlesque off white, special embossed poster. and if you don't get that, then you can get another 20 posters from the tour.
my point is, there will always be another poster for your favourite band that looks similar to a poster they did 3 years ago. nothing is ever really that rare, especially knowing that most people are treating this as 'collectibles' and not just a nice souvenir from the show they went to last month.
can you really blame an artist for trying to cash in on it?
there are some 'artists' who lock in on a gimmick, and plug away at it. editions of 100, in 3 colours is pretty cheap, and they break even if they can sell 30 of them. i'm not naming any names, but there are lots of newer artists who are getting some big attention and big sales right away.
some artists, like jay ryan plug away for years, doing their thing, building their own empire... i respect that and admire his work.
but you're right about many 'new artists' who dabble in illustrator and photoshop, bang out a couple of cheap gimmicks and send a file to print.
i think you have to focus on the addage about buying what you like, and ignoring the 'flipping' value.
a few things drive this frenzy:
1. poster drops (poster is on sale at 3pm mountain time, get your F5 keys ready). remember when they just showed up on their website or just on gigposters?
2. variants: show variant, junk paper variant, glow in the dark with 2 drops of blood variant.
but if you ignore all of that and just buy what you really like, you can't go wrong.
driving the price of your prints downward is the fact that bands are doing posters for each of their shows. so if you didn't get the super scarce emek foil hologram dual signed poster, the next day you get a crack at the burlesque off white, special embossed poster. and if you don't get that, then you can get another 20 posters from the tour.
my point is, there will always be another poster for your favourite band that looks similar to a poster they did 3 years ago. nothing is ever really that rare, especially knowing that most people are treating this as 'collectibles' and not just a nice souvenir from the show they went to last month.
can you really blame an artist for trying to cash in on it?