Framed print in contact with the glass

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Postby sidaldo on Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:19 am

For prints where no mount is, it ends up being in contact with the glass (if no spacers are used). In what way is this bad for the art work?
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Postby wottagunn on Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:29 am

The ink can transfer over to the glass. Ive had it happen on a few of mine when I started buying paper.
If you never remove it from the frame, you’d never know
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Postby CHR1S on Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:43 am

Glass sweats. Moisture can build up. The print can stick to the glass.

If you are not going to use a mat or spacers it's best to avoid using glass and use plexi.
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Postby sidaldo on Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:26 am

Is using plexi perfectly okay?

I had a few in a frame for 3-4 years touching the glass and on removal it did not stick but I guess its case to case.
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Postby ciphe on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:06 pm

sidaldo wrote:Is using plexi perfectly okay?

I had a few in a frame for 3-4 years touching the glass and on removal it did not stick but I guess its case to case.


I've read this before and it makes me nervous about most of my collection, but I've had my prints in frames for several years with no problem. I think it would depend on the exposure your frames to outside elements
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Postby aldo on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:14 pm

Here's what can happen: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=155851

If you value your prints at all you would never have them touching anything - glass or plexi.
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Postby ciphe on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:42 pm

aldo wrote:Here's what can happen: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=155851

If you value your prints at all you would never have them touching anything - glass or plexi.


ouch
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Postby sidaldo on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:05 pm

Damn. I beleive with spacers, framers don't always get it right and it causes other problems like warping, etc..
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Postby 666ways2love on Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:47 pm

sidaldo wrote:Damn. I beleive with spacers, framers don't always get it right and it causes other problems like warping, etc..


If it's a bigger print, lighter paper stock, heavy inks - you definitely run the risk of warping or seeing the waves in the paper due to gravity and possibly various elements. Also, without even the slightest matting, you can't use mounting strips or corners that would help hold the print flat and in place for years to come.
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Postby LetsGetATaco on Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:29 pm

Where can I buy spacers? I have prints in frames with no mats so just want to make sure they are ok. I tried looking them up on Amazon and didn't find any.
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Postby dasponyboy on Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:46 pm

LetsGetATaco wrote:Where can I buy spacers? I have prints in frames with no mats so just want to make sure they are ok. I tried looking them up on Amazon and didn't find any.

https://www.framedestination.com/catalo ... ?q=spacers
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Postby GreenMt on Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:20 pm

Are there concerns having a print in a 4 mil Mylar sleeve under the weight of a stack of prints in similar sleeves above it (ie in a flatfile drawer?)
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Postby wottagunn on Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:44 pm

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Postby WolfBrewer on Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:06 am

I have never had any issues with the print touching glass. The humidity is reasonable in our home and I have checked frames periodically to see if there has been any moisture getting inside. So far so good, but I might add spacers to some higher value prints soon.
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Postby CHR1S on Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:20 am

WolfBrewer wrote:I have never had any issues with the print touching glass. The humidity is reasonable in our home and I have checked frames periodically to see if there has been any moisture getting inside. So far so good, but I might add spacers to some higher value prints soon.


Have you deframed many of your prints that are touching glass? It's amazing how little humidity it takes to cause issues when a work on paper is not framed properly. If you use acrylic (instead of glass) the risk is minimal. But with glass resting directly on a work on paper you're much more likely to have some condition issues when you deframe.
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