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Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:08 am
by aldo
dmm8878 wrote:golobulus wrote:Tube-length kraft rolled thinner than the tube was my biggest take-away and has worked really well for me. Allow some tube crushing but not allow the print to bang back and forth in the tube.
This, though I usually cut the kraft a couple inches shorter than the tube and pad with bubble wrap or crumpled paper towels.
Why would you do that? That just gives you the chance for the padding to slide into the rolled kraft and onto the print. If the kraft is the length of the tube there is no need for padding - the print will not move at all.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:30 pm
by dasponyboy
shidarin wrote:1. Kraft under print, glassine over print, bottom ends folded in.
2. Wrap kraft slightly smaller than tube
3. Tape kraft shut with painters tape.
4. Wrap that in a layer of bubble wrap.
5. Tape on some strips of kraft at the ends to help with pulling out print
6. Pad ends with tissue or bubble wrap.
7. Tape on end caps with a circumference strip of packing tape
8. Avoid temptation to write "Fragile" on tube.
Are my current steps. Anything I'm missing/overdoing?
My exact setup except on #5 I use taped strips of bubble wrap on both ends instead of kraft.
I also don't think #4 is a mistake especially in a four inch Yazoo when rolling the print smaller. Taking up that extra 1/4 inch of space with bubble wrap isn't going to make the difference if they demolish a Yazoo. So I'd rather have it in there to soften any side jostling.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:32 pm
by disdig1
aldo wrote:dmm8878 wrote:golobulus wrote:Tube-length kraft rolled thinner than the tube was my biggest take-away and has worked really well for me. Allow some tube crushing but not allow the print to bang back and forth in the tube.
This, though I usually cut the kraft a couple inches shorter than the tube and pad with bubble wrap or crumpled paper towels.
Why would you do that? That just gives you the chance for the padding to slide into the rolled kraft and onto the print. If the kraft is the length of the tube there is no need for padding - the print will not move at all.
tape the bubble wrap to the end cap and it will never slide into the tube boom!
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:37 pm
by RambosRemodeler
Receive tube from artist/gallery and slap your buyers info on it. Drop off at PO and done
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:41 pm
by shidarin
I have actually gotten tubes where the print slid a bit against the kraft paper- because it was so far to one side that it obviously wasn't rolled that way. If the tube takes a big hit on one end and the kraft paper can't move (because it's the length of the tube) the print will still have force acting on it. True, having it wrapped in the kraft paper gives it plenty of friction, but you're really going to just depend on friction? Cutting the kraft shorter than the tube and padding with tissue or bubble wrap allows the kraft and the print to move a bit together, keeping the print protected by the kraft.
At least, that's my bullshit pseudo scientific sounding reasoning to myself.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:30 pm
by Cragars
Every single tube I've received with this padding, all that junk has worked it's way into the roll and serves absolutely no purpose. Then, since space was allowed between the ends and the kraft, the kraft gets beat to fudge. If you roll smaller than the diameter of the tube with the Kraft the same length as the tube, you'll be fine.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:41 pm
by turnJBup
People are still putting padding into the ends of tubes?
wtf?
CUT THE HALF INCH OFF THE TUBE.
DONT CRAM ANY OF YOUR TOILET PAPER OR PLASTIC BAGS INTO THE ENDS... IT DOESNT WORK.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:42 pm
by turnJBup
Cragars wrote:Every single tube I've received with this padding, all that junk has worked it's way into the roll and serves absolutely no purpose. Then, since space was allowed between the ends and the kraft, the kraft gets beat to fudge. If you roll smaller than the diameter of the tube with the Kraft the same length as the tube, you'll be fine.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:44 pm
by shidarin
If padding is working it's way into the end of the roll, that means the ends of the roll don't have the kraft paper taped over the end, and it was crap padding.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:48 pm
by turnJBup
shidarin wrote:I have actually gotten tubes where the print slid a bit against the kraft paper- because it was so far to one side that it obviously wasn't rolled that way. If the tube takes a big hit on one end and the kraft paper can't move (because it's the length of the tube) the print will still have force acting on it. True, having it wrapped in the kraft paper gives it plenty of friction, but you're really going to just depend on friction? Cutting the kraft shorter than the tube and padding with tissue or bubble wrap allows the kraft and the print to move a bit together, keeping the print protected by the kraft.
At least, that's my bullshit pseudo scientific sounding reasoning to myself.
Folding the bottom helps. If the print slides it's because it wasn't rolled tightly.
If you don't want to roll tightly, use an additional piece of craft over the print.
Thought I saw someone mention fold both ends of the craft paper... That's a no no.
Because when the print is rolled, the top folded portion gets too tight and can damage the top of the print.
I guess you can do it, but be sure to leave enough room at the top so the poster doesn't touch the fold.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:54 pm
by turnJBup
shidarin wrote:If padding is working it's way into the end of the roll, that means the ends of the roll don't have the kraft paper taped over the end, and it was crap padding.
Why on earth would you stuff anything in the end when you can cut the tube to fit the poster roll with a bread knife in 4 seconds? It's ridiculous...
The only reason people are cramming foreign crap in there is because the tube is too long. Well, cut it where you want it.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:59 pm
by PLUSH
turnJBup wrote:shidarin wrote:If padding is working it's way into the end of the roll, that means the ends of the roll don't have the kraft paper taped over the end, and it was crap padding.
Why on earth would you stuff anything in the end when you can cut the tube to fit the poster roll with a bread knife in 4 seconds? It's ridiculous...
The only reason people are cramming foreign crap in there is because the tube is too long. Well, cut it where you want it.
A bread knife? 4 seconds? Dude, you need to use thicker tubes. I'd like to see a video of that. I used my 12" miter saw.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:11 pm
by mfaith
turnJBup wrote:shidarin wrote:If padding is working it's way into the end of the roll, that means the ends of the roll don't have the kraft paper taped over the end, and it was crap padding.
Why on earth would you stuff anything in the end when you can cut the tube to fit the poster roll with a bread knife in 4 seconds? It's ridiculous...
The only reason people are cramming foreign crap in there is because the tube is too long. Well, cut it where you want it.
Isn't it easier to cut the kraft paper the right size than the super thick tube with a bread knife?!
This isn't an arts and crafts project lol. Really boy-scouting that tube packing.
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:16 pm
by RambosRemodeler
Some of you guys are drymounting noobs
Re: How to Ship a Print
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:20 pm
by turnJBup
RambosRemodeler wrote:Some of you guys are drymounting noobs
No fudge.
I guess the year isn't showing up on my account... Off to a party.