Waviness on Framed Prints

Information on shipping, storing and repairing your art, plus your reviews on products for art collecting, making, storing, etc..

Postby allyouzombies on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:04 pm

Hey all,

A few months back I had two posters professionally framed: Stout's LTROI variant, and Moss's Lawrence of Arabia. Shortly after I got them back I noticed the Stout had a small wave in it, but it didn't really bother me. Since then, however, it's gotten worse:

Image

Image

Image

I know older Stouts are prone to this, but I've also noticed it on my Lawrence of Arabia (couldn't get a good photograph showing it, and it's not nearly as severe).

My question is this: is there anything that can be done about it? Would it do any good to take it back to the framer? I'm trying not to be anal about it, but I can't un-see the waves whenever I look at them, especially the Stout. But I'm wondering if this is a result of a poor frame job, or just the fact that they're older prints.
allyouzombies
Art Connoisseur
 
Status: Active
Posts: 420
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:49 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Postby alittle on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:08 pm

How is it mounted? Tough to tell from the photos.
User avatar
alittle
Art Freak
 
Status: Active
Posts: 15039
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:10 am
Image

Postby trarex on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:10 pm

Thick ink , cheap paper, humidity
User avatar
trarex
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 7306
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:51 pm
"Lay off Detroit, Them peoples is living in Mad Max times." Moe Szyslak

Postby golobulus on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:10 pm

There doesn't appear to be a mat. I think that would help significantly.
User avatar
golobulus
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 1883
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:47 pm
Location: Queen Creek, AZ

Postby MillerTime04 on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:11 pm

i remember my first wave. first tell us how they're mounted to the backing
User avatar
MillerTime04
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 2680
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:25 pm
Art comes alive in the arguments you have about it

Postby allyouzombies on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:20 pm

MillerTime04 wrote:i remember my first wave. first tell us how they're mounted to the backing


That's a good question. I'll be honest, I don't know... :oops:
allyouzombies
Art Connoisseur
 
Status: Active
Posts: 420
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:49 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Postby bryndavies on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:22 pm

The one stout I have framed has the same thing. I thought it was a combo of heavy ink, humidity and the tightness of the joints in the frame. I think a thread like this pops up every year, and I think peace dog mentioned it could have a lot to do with the frame.
User avatar
bryndavies
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 9214
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:44 pm
Location: The Last Frontier
ImageT.K.C.

Postby rubberneck on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:26 pm

Bring it back for correction, framer if reputable will resolve it.
User avatar
rubberneck
Art God
 
Status: Active
Posts: 23411
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:19 pm
Location: Houston, TX

Postby ceevee on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:31 pm

Paper is constantly growing and shrinking as the environment changes. Framing needs to account for this.

Are there spacers in your frame?
User avatar
ceevee
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 7507
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:06 pm

Postby allyouzombies on Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:50 pm

ceevee wrote:Paper is constantly growing and shrinking as the environment changes. Framing needs to account for this.

Are there spacers in your frame?


These are questions I should know the answers to. I suck.

rubberneck wrote:Bring it back for correction, framer if reputable will resolve it.


Is there a specific mounting type I should request?
allyouzombies
Art Connoisseur
 
Status: Active
Posts: 420
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:49 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Postby alittle on Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:54 pm

Matting will help with the waving, but it would require a total reframe as there isn't any room in the frame to fit a mat.
User avatar
alittle
Art Freak
 
Status: Active
Posts: 15039
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:10 am
Image

Postby allyouzombies on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:02 pm

Almost year-later update on this!

I took these two prints back to the framer, and they told me they had been conservation-mounted with tape so as to preserve them. The guy basically said that the only other option was to drymount them (which he advised against because of their value) - otherwise I should just accept that they'll have the wavyness but at least they'll be preserved.

Does this sound like the best course of action, friends?
allyouzombies
Art Connoisseur
 
Status: Active
Posts: 420
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:49 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Postby triporfreak on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:11 pm

I'd say he should not have used any tape, conservation or otherwise, without your permission. & drymounting? how about mylar photo corners with a nice cotton rag matte, then seal up the frame so no moisture gets in. also, keep your homes' humidity in the 30-50 range...
User avatar
triporfreak
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 2004
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:29 pm
Location: NorCal

Postby hogie777 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:20 pm

triporfreak wrote:I'd say he should not have used any tape, conservation or otherwise, without your permission. & drymounting? how about mylar photo corners with a nice cotton rag matte, then seal up the frame so no moisture gets in. also, keep your homes' humidity in the 30-50 range...



Is there a downside to mounting with conservation tape? I think I have a bunch of pieces that are done like that :?
User avatar
hogie777
Art Connoisseur
 
Status: Active
Posts: 717
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:13 pm
Location: Long Island, NY
“We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams” - Willy Wonka

Postby triporfreak on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:24 pm

if it rice or wheat paste it is easily removable, but I've seen plenty of prints with conservation tape & when people have tried to remove it can/does leave a little paper loss.

not that's it bad, but any solid framer should tell you first if they plan on using it. personally, I don't allow it.
User avatar
triporfreak
Art Expert
 
Status: Active
Posts: 2004
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:29 pm
Location: NorCal

Next

Return to Art Care



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest