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Postby fredo on Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 pm

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Postby Codeblue on Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:17 pm

bubbie wrote:So they did kill him after all. Right in the drymounting consulate.

Luls. Duh.

P.S. Everything else is just a dog and pony show.
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Postby bubbie on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:26 am

^ Well, yeah.

In other news, this is pretty sweet too: President Trump to pull US from Russia missile treaty

The US will withdraw from a landmark nuclear weapons treaty with Russia, President Donald Trump has confirmed.

Speaking to reporters, Mr Trump said Russia had "violated" the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty.

The deal banned ground-launched medium-range missiles, with a range of between 500 and 5,500km (310-3,400 miles).

The US would not let Russia "go out and do weapons [while] we're not allowed to", Mr Trump said.

"I don't know why President [Barack] Obama didn't negotiate or pull out," the president said after a campaign rally in Nevada. "They've been violating it for many years."

In 2014, President Obama accused Russia of breaching the INF after it allegedly tested a ground-launched cruise missile. He reportedly chose not to withdraw from the treaty under pressure from European leaders, who said such a move could restart an arms race.

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In 2007, Russian president Vladimir Putin declared the treaty no longer served Russia's interests. The move came after the US withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002

The last time the US withdrew from a major arms treaty was in 2002, when President George W Bush pulled the US out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, which banned weapons designed to counter ballistic nuclear missiles.

His administration's moves to set up a missile shield in Europe alarmed the Kremlin, and was scrapped by the Obama administration in 2009 to be replaced by a modified defence system in 2016.
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Postby bubbie on Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:13 am

Great news is that Britain supports the above.
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Postby desch on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:15 pm

The 332 people connected to the Russia probes (an interactive article)
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2 ... tion-ties/

For all you math challenged people, that number is significantly greater than 0. Witch hunt anyone?

There are 5 categories of people, 1. Democrats, 2. Prosecutor, 3. Law Enforcement, Lobbyists and media, 4. Foreign Nationals and 5. Team Trump. Only the category Democrats and prosecutors have no one with ties to Russia. Team Trump has a total of at least 160 people on this list (meaning there may be more that aren't known yet) by far the largest group involved.

There's a great filter to find out which people are part of which investigations that Mueller's team is involved in, and an accompanying blurb describing that conection.
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Postby misterx on Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:08 am

bubbie wrote:^ Well, yeah.

In other news, this is pretty sweet too: President Trump to pull US from Russia missile treaty

The US will withdraw from a landmark nuclear weapons treaty with Russia, President Donald Trump has confirmed.

Speaking to reporters, Mr Trump said Russia had "violated" the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty.

The deal banned ground-launched medium-range missiles, with a range of between 500 and 5,500km (310-3,400 miles).

The US would not let Russia "go out and do weapons [while] we're not allowed to", Mr Trump said.

"I don't know why President [Barack] Obama didn't negotiate or pull out," the president said after a campaign rally in Nevada. "They've been violating it for many years."

In 2014, President Obama accused Russia of breaching the INF after it allegedly tested a ground-launched cruise missile. He reportedly chose not to withdraw from the treaty under pressure from European leaders, who said such a move could restart an arms race.

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In 2007, Russian president Vladimir Putin declared the treaty no longer served Russia's interests. The move came after the US withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002

The last time the US withdrew from a major arms treaty was in 2002, when President George W Bush pulled the US out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, which banned weapons designed to counter ballistic nuclear missiles.

His administration's moves to set up a missile shield in Europe alarmed the Kremlin, and was scrapped by the Obama administration in 2009 to be replaced by a modified defence system in 2016.


Its called feeding ones War Economy.
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Postby comountaingolf on Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:42 am

I wanna hear more about all the pederasts down 'unda? Sounds like the Catholic Church on steroids... endorsed on the local, regional and national level throughout Oz. Talk about a nation that needs to search its' soul...
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Postby misterx on Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:34 am

comountaingolf wrote:I wanna hear more about all the pederasts down 'unda? Sounds like the Catholic Church on steroids... endorsed on the local, regional and national level throughout Oz. Talk about a nation that needs to search its' soul...


Komrade Co !!

Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.When criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world

The term "whataboutery" has been used in Britain and Ireland since the period of the Troubles (conflict) in Northern Ireland. Lexicographers date the first appearance of the variant whataboutism to the 1990s or 1970s.The tactic saw a resurgence in post-Soviet Russia, relating to human rights violations committed by, and criticisms of, the Russian government. The technique received new attention during Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea and military intervention in Ukraine. Usage of the tactic extended to Russian President Vladimir Putin and his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov.

The Guardian deemed whataboutism, as used in Russia, "practically a national ideology". Journalist Julia Ioffe wrote that "Anyone who has ever studied the Soviet Union" was aware of the technique, citing the Soviet rejoinder to criticism, And you are lynching Negroes, as a "classic" example of the tactic.Writing for Bloomberg News, Leonid Bershidsky called whataboutism a "Russian tradition", while The New Yorker described the technique as "a strategy of false moral equivalences"
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Postby SPAC04 on Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:59 am

omg mrX is such a hack.
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Postby misterx on Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:05 pm

The Truth has been known to hurt...you must be feeling it too.

Hey gorkie, why'd ya think “Putin’s Puppet” has advanced Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin ??


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Postby gorkie on Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:06 pm

misterx wrote:Hey gorkie, why'd ya think “Putin’s Puppet” has advanced Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin ??

Asking for a friend.


Do you literally just parrot headlines?

“Putin’s Puppet” Advances Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/puti ... c5f939da43

When was your last appointment with your psychiatrist?

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Postby jjttdw on Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

gorkie wrote:
misterx wrote:Hey gorkie, why'd ya think “Putin’s Puppet” has advanced Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin ??

Asking for a friend.


Do you literally just parrot headlines?

“Putin’s Puppet” Advances Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/puti ... c5f939da43

When was your last appointment with your psychiatrist?

Asking for a friend.

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The correct answer is that Putin wanted out of the treaty but didn't want to be seen as the one blowing it up. So he had his puppet do it.
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Postby gorkie on Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:37 pm

So the problem is that we are putting our faith in people, when we should be putting our faith in God.

Got it.

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Postby SPAC04 on Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:00 pm

gorkie wrote:
misterx wrote:Hey gorkie, why'd ya think “Putin’s Puppet” has advanced Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin ??

Do you literally just parrot headlines?
“Putin’s Puppet” Advances Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin


Duh, becuase...
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Postby comountaingolf on Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:16 pm

Watched the new HBO Doc Outside the Bubble... last night. The political divide is real.
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