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by **fredo** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:16 pm

He doesn't give a shit.

by **pewter14** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:20 pm

hellosir wrote:He is a 2nd year quarterback, and played three games last year. Say whatever you want about his completion percentage, but you guys shitting all over him is kinda dumb. That's sports for you
Wanna bet on the game Pewter?

Is this really "shitting all over him"?

pewter14 wrote:He doesn't need to become Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Tom Brady ... Tebow can make up a lot with his athleticism.

... or this?

pewter14 wrote:I think cutting Tebow would be an *enormous* mistake. He has value as a player even if not a full time QB.

... or this?

pewter14 wrote:It can happen ... it could happen for Tebow this year

I think my posts, when you read them, clearly state the guy offers something most QBs don't and that's great. But, if he stays who he is today and doesn't improve, success is not sustainable. Do you disagree with this? Is this really "shitting all over him"?

I honestly have no reason to bet on the Pats, I'm already emotionally invested in the game. And honestly, I have no reason to bet against Tebow, damn I don't hate the guy ... I just presented evidence why I think he needs to improve at being a quarterback.

But most of all ... I certainly won't fall into your chest puffy "wanna bet?" posts. That's not going to make you go back and really read what I wrote now, is it?

by **andruw000** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:28 pm

ejg904 wrote:again, another person here completely neglects the fact that evaluating tebow on his QB rating alone is foolish. it doesn't accurately depict his impact on a defense, or a game. nobody really gives a shit what cam newton or michael vick's QB rating is - because that's only part of their game.

their ability to pick up 65+ yards a game on the ground makes it a nightmare for defenses because they have no idea what's coming. it changes their defensive fronts, their personnel groupings, everything really.

i predict we will see a new metric in the future that more accurately captures a QBs true impac on a game. the days where a QB could ONLY stand in the pocket and deliver the ball to his receivers are over - the game is always evolving. obviously that will never disappear - Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers (to a lesser extent) aren't running all over the place - but there are an increasing number of guys using their legs to make plays and move the chains

Comparing Tebow's skills to Newton's and Vick's is quite a stretch. Yes, they can all run, but Newton and Vick are significantly more dangerous through the air. True, Tebow is only in his second year, but Newton is a rookie and threw for 4,000 yards. Tebow, by comparison, threw for 1758 (albeit in two fewer games). I also highly disagree with the idea that the days where a QB can ONLY stand in the pocket and deliver are over. Seriously? Who are the elite quarterbacks in the NFL? Brees, Brady, Manning, Manning again, Rivers, Rodgers, Schaub, Ryan, Romo... All pocket passers. For every Robert Griffin III entering the draft, there's going to be multiple Luck's and Barkley's. While Tebow's run has been fun to watch, unless he significantly improves his ability to throw the ball through the air on a CONSISTENT basis, he will not be a successful quarterback in this league over the long haul. I think by this time next year everyone will have a good idea as to whether or not Tebow will continue to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

by **fredo** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:30 pm

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19706529

by **hellosir** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:45 pm

The title of this thread is "Tim Teblow", i'm sure there is some shitting going on in here somewhere besides treweman's big boy pants

by **pewter14** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:52 pm

hellosir wrote:The title of this thread is "Tim Teblow", i'm sure there is some shitting going on in here somewhere besides treweman's big boy pants

Proving the point that you're not actually reading, let alone trying to comprehend, what is being posted.

by **hellosir** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:57 pm

Even the sun shines on a dogs ass every once in a while

This is the first reply in the thread dude

by **fredo** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:02 pm

fredo wrote:He doesn't give a shit.

by **fnord** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:10 pm

I drunkenly started the thread to shit on Tebow. Any level headed conversation that occurred afterwards was completely unintentional.

by **hellosir** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:11 pm

Haha, I win
Treweman, wanna bet the line, or odds?

by **rmoore** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:15 pm

Love him or hate him, you're all obsessed with him.

by **fredo** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:57 pm

I live in Denver and therefore have no choice. Tebow is all anybody knows or talks about here.

by **ironjaiden** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:48 pm

fredo wrote:I live in Denver and therefore have no choice. Tebow is all anybody knows or talks about here.

That's untrue! I had a whole conversation with a bunch of people last night about whether or not 'period sex' was gross. Denver's got range.

by **fredo** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:53 pm

ironjaiden wrote:
fredo wrote:I live in Denver and therefore have no choice. Tebow is all anybody knows or talks about here.

That's untrue! I had a whole conversation with a bunch of people last night about whether or not 'period sex' was gross. Denver's got range.

Vegans don't count.

by **ejg904** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:55 pm

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/74510 ... ro-athlete

love it

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